10-2-B....1st,2nd,3rd editions....4th?%th? 6th?
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05-19-2006, 03:19 PM
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10-2-B....1st,2nd,3rd editions....4th?%th? 6th?
I find it interesting that after the 3rd edition the explanation of the 10-2-B grip type changed considerably...
1st edition
10-2-B V/V/A Pull the Right Hand back from the top pressure point position of Grip A in order to conform to a lowered left thumb position. This allows the Pressure Point to drop to an Aft position. Do not ROTATE the right hand to achieve this change. The pressure point is no longer on the plane of the wrist cock. The pressure point will be on the line of the Inclined Plane during Impact. The use of this Grip Type should be discouraged until Grip Type A has been mastered.
Wow!!!....I wonder if this was prior to the "Flying Wedge Concept" or did it give birth to it?
Pull the right hand back?...from the base of the left thumb?
Lowered Left thumb position...to the aft side now in the same line as pressure points #2 & #3?
Dropped to an Aft position?...To where the Plane of the Sweetpot and the Clubshaft meet?
Discouraged?  ...
Why I wonder?????????????????
Annikan
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05-20-2006, 10:58 PM
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If you 're interested in having great structure of the flying wedges...you might want to consider reading this post....Hint ...Hint....Hint......
Homer is telling you how to get Pressure point #3,#2, and #1 on the same line...The line of the Sweetspot Plane!!!!!
Pressure point drops...
Not Rotated ...
Lowered thumb...
Aft side....
Now on the inclined Plane for Impact.....
Ahhhh?
There's some meat there....
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05-20-2006, 11:04 PM
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Annikan,
Since early editions can be difficult to get ahold of do you think you could take a picture comparing the two different 10-2-B grips?
Thanks,
Matt
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05-21-2006, 09:06 PM
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Pictures haven't changed ...compare 10-2-A to 10-2-B...and you see exactly what he wrote in the early editions..I just can't believe we don't have more "nibbles or bites on this lure"...For cryin out loud...Tons of people want to know how to get 10-2-B...I type out exactly what Homer wrote... and it still goes over their head....Maybe I should've posted as Homer..then they would listen.....but I'm Annikan NOT Homer...or Yoda...So Yoda...please take it from here!!! 
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05-21-2006, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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Pictures haven't changed ...compare 10-2-A to 10-2-B...and you see exactly what he wrote in the early editions..I just can't believe we don't have more "nibbles or bites on this lure"...For cryin out loud...Tons of people want to know how to get 10-2-B...I type out exactly what Homer wrote... and it still goes over their head....Maybe I should've posted as Homer..then they would listen.....but I'm Annikan NOT Homer...or Yoda...So Yoda...please take it from here!!!
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It's confusing. Pull back, drop, don't rotate? Cryptic.
I think that I have a great Strong Single Action Grip. Finally. The #3 pressure point returns to the aft side of the shaft before impact, and the Flying Wedges are intact throughout. Finger tips of the two middle fingers of the right hand lie on the forward side of the shaft. Right wrist vertical.
Am I still missing something? Yes, the pressure points are on the sweetspot plane.
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05-22-2006, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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I find it interesting that after the 3rd edition the explanation of the 10-2-B grip type changed considerably...
1st edition
10-2-B V/V/A Pull the Right Hand back from the top pressure point position of Grip A in order to conform to a lowered left thumb position. This allows the Pressure Point to drop to an Aft position. Do not ROTATE the right hand to achieve this change. The pressure point is no longer on the plane of the wrist cock. The pressure point will be on the line of the Inclined Plane during Impact. The use of this Grip Type should be discouraged until Grip Type A has been mastered.
Wow!!!....I wonder if this was prior to the "Flying Wedge Concept" or did it give birth to it?
Pull the right hand back?...from the base of the left thumb?
Lowered Left thumb position...to the aft side now in the same line as pressure points #2 & #3?
Dropped to an Aft position?...To where the Plane of the Sweetpot and the Clubshaft meet?
Discouraged? ...
Why I wonder?????????????????
Annikan
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by 'rotate' I assume he meant 'turn'? Looks 'turned' to me, but perhaps that is due to the palm vs finger difference.
Interesting he would suggest mastery of A first - a much more difficult grip to start with IMO, but then it does force you to learn to 'roll'. I would have thought he would begin with 10-2-D and move back toward B, then A (assuming he thought A was better at the time).
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05-22-2006, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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It's confusing. Pull back, drop, don't rotate? Cryptic.
I think that I have a great Strong Single Action Grip. Finally. The #3 pressure point returns to the aft side of the shaft before impact, and the Flying Wedges are intact throughout. Finger tips of the two middle fingers of the right hand lie on the forward side of the shaft. Right wrist vertical.
Am I still missing something? Yes, the pressure points are on the sweetspot plane.
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And I should add, that the right hand is low on the shaft compared to its higher previous position. It's more across from the left hand.
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05-22-2006, 08:32 PM
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IF you put your hands on the club as in 10-2-A and simply pull your right forearm back along the same line as it is at address (toward your right shoulder) the right hands drops perfectly into place as in 10-2-B. Right hand is not longer on the same plane as the wristcock but rather the impact forearm plane.
Seems simple enough am I missing something?
BTW The left hand "V" is not pointing at the right shoulder as in conventional strong grips. 10-2-b is the best way to enable the left hand club shaft to achieve/maintain the flat left wrist/flail. Read the basic motion curriculum paragraph 7.
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05-22-2006, 09:46 PM
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Pull the heel of the right hand palm off the left thumb ..then lower the the left thumb..this drops #3 pressure point, then proceed to align #2 with it and by lowering the left thumb this aligns #1 with other 3 PP's ...not difficult...just follow Homer's Procedure....It's NOT Annikan's Procedure...Homer's remember....
He said NOT to ROTATE ...because the Right Wrist may move toward an Arched condition..which destroys the alignment of the RFFW....DO Not Rotate..also means the Left Wrist..So many who do not know try to rotate the left thumb to the Aft location rather than "abducting it from the forefinger to lower it by itself to the aft alignment...YOU see those cats and dogs who try to keep a coin between the left thumb and left forefinger can keep the coin in when executed per Homer's procedure...those who can keep the coin in are probably rotating it! 
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05-22-2006, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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Pull the heel of the right hand palm off the left thumb ..then lower the the left thumb..this drops #3 pressure point, then proceed to align #2 with it and by lowering the left thumb this aligns #1 with other 3 PP's ...not difficult...just follow Homer's Procedure....It's NOT Annikan's Procedure...Homer's remember....
He said NOT to ROTATE ...because the Right Wrist may move toward an Arched condition..which destroys the alignment of the RFFW....DO Not Rotate..also means the Left Wrist..So many who do not know try to rotate the left thumb to the Aft location rather than "abducting it from the forefinger to lower it by itself to the aft alignment...YOU see those cats and dogs who try to keep a coin between the left thumb and left forefinger can keep the coin in when executed per Homer's procedure...those who can keep the coin in are probably rotating it!
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It's a precise alignment.
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