Checking for On Plane Clubshaft

[neil]

Come on you big guns!

[Yoda]

Where are the big Guns? They’re waiting. Do you see my new Avatar? I’m getting ready for their arrival. LOL.

Just in tonight, Daryl. For now, just know...

The perpendicular plane of the Left Wrist Cock Motion and the inclined plane of the Clubhead (Sweetspot) Line of Flight are two different things!

[YodasLuke]

It's frustrating. All I want is to hit the ball better. I'm plaqued by the thought that if I know and understand more, I'll get better. It works with everything else. I don't know if anything I wrote earlier is taking me closer or farther from the mechanics involved.

However, there is no doubt in my mind as to the correctness of 6-B-3-0-1. Also I have no doubt in my mind what defines the “Inclined Plane”. And, if 6-B-3-0-1 is true, then the entire Primary Lever would need to lie flat against the inclined plane. That’s my dilemma.

I’m convinced that if we dissect the swings of everyone on this site, we’ll see something a little different. On the other hand, when viewing a swing from down-the-line, the acid test (on this site too) is drawing a straight line from the ball through the right shoulder (at the top of the swing) and examining whether or not the Clubshaft lies flat against it. I understand the validity of this test and I agree with its purpose. I can make the Clubshaft lie flat on the inclined plane and have a flat and cocked left wrist. I just can’t do it while cocking or uncocking the left wrist and comply with 6-B-3-0-1. So, What am I missing?

Where are the big Guns? They’re waiting. Do you see my new Avatar? I’m getting ready for their arrival. LOL.

Good Lord... You guys are giving me down-thread blackout. Let's keep it simple for a few posts. But, I do LOVE the avatar. P.S. I'm wearing my helmet, "like my momma always said".

Let's start with a Turned Shoulder Plane (10-6-B). Can we all look at the pictures, #1 and #2. If her Right Shoulder is moving to the plane with a Flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn. Then, logic would say that the Left Shoulder is moving away. #2 would certainly show that the entire Left Arm Flying Wedge is not on plane.
At Top, we have the Right Shoulder, the #3 PP, the Clubshaft, and the Sweetspot on plane. The Left Shoulder nor the Left Arm have a chance to be on the Turned Shoulder Plane.

As you posted...6-B-3-O-1. "…the entire Left Arm, the Clubshaft and the back of the Left Hand are ALWAYS positioned against the same flat plane - the plane of the Left Wristcock motion.” Not, against the same Turned Shoulder Plane.

Don't get the plane of the Left Wristcock motion and the Turned Shoulder Plane confused.

[YodasLuke]

Well, while I was typing my post, Yoda beat me to the punch. At least, we made the same point. It makes me feel better.

[strav]

Just in tonight, Daryl. For now, just know...

The perpendicular plane of the Left Wrist Cock Motion and the inclined plane of the Clubhead (Sweetspot) Line of Flight are two different things!

Not sure if this is what you mean but if not could you show us?

[neil]

Great post Strav!This is what I was trying to explain to Daryl -that the two planes referred to in 6-B-3-0-1 are different -but the common ground is the hands and clubshaft.Thanks also Yoda & Luke

[neil]

I can imagine Daryl at this moment, mirrors ,dowels,plane board,flashlight........

[Daryl]

I can imagine Daryl at this moment, mirrors ,dowels,plane board,flashlight........

Right you are Mate,

First; let me say that I've never hit the ball better since the school at Old Waverly and 6-B-3-0-1. I’m impressed, and I don’t get impressed easily.

I can make the Clubshaft lie flat on the inclined plane and have a flat and cocked left wrist. I just don’t understand how to comply with 2-F while cocking or un-cocking the left wrist and comply with 6-B-3-0-1.

Using your left hand, choke down 12” on a 48” dowel and use your right hand to clamp the end of the dowel to your left forearm (6-B-3-0-1). Get into your startup posture. Swing the dowel back until your Left hand is on the face of the Turned Shoulder Plane. Does the dowel lie flat against the Turned Shoulder Plane? Keep moving until the dowel is horizontal to the ground (2-F). Is the dowel parallel to the baseline of the inclined plane?

When I comply with 6-B-3-0-1, at the start down a small hip slide moves my right shoulder down-plane and increases the pressure in #4 and #3 PP’s. I have the “Heavy (but almost effortless) Hit”. Short and long strokes. I think my name should be embroidered on my bag on the face of a pocket where my $ winnings are kept.

[Daryl]

Only with a Rotated Shoulder Turn, on a Square Shoulder Plane (and when the waist bend is at enough angle so that the shoulders will be on plane while turning) will you comply with 2-F and 6-B-3-0-1 simultaneously.

[Daryl]

Not sure if this is what you mean but if not could you show us?

Thanks Strav.

This closely illustrates my point.

My interpretation:

The left model swing complies with 6-B-3-0-1. The right model swing Complies with 2-F by using a bent left wrist.