Head position at setup

[smooth]

Two things:

Impact Fix is more than a hand position- the entire machine is in Impact – hands, hips, etc. So I think you are merely set at address with a forward press or at impact hands position. Is your left wrist flat or bent at address? A Hitter will more than likely start with FL and a BR where as a Swinger and the rest of the world is BL and FR at address. There is nothing wrong with starting with the hands over the left thigh with either address wrist positions. But….

Check your hip alignment. I think you are leaning left in your” hands forward address position” moving your head with it. The head at impact is always behind the ball- hips facing down target. Set your hips closer tothat of impact and your head should remain center with little of no need to move it to the right. Check out the Hula Hula thread. It seems that not every one on this planet can move the hips and shoulders independently. But good golf demands it.

I do think your head may be in a too much of a sway.

ps- Lagster is right- this forum is loaded with a treasure of information. I call it the "Dummies Guide to TGM" because Yoda has written clearly the secerts- locked from mere mortal eyes- of The Golfing Machine. And one good question is answered with another.

My left wrist is flat at setup and right wrist bent, my head is centered in between my feet (nose i guess is level with the ball when using a wedge from center of stance).

By the top of the backswing my head has moved back probably 2-3 inches - i've been trying to avoid this but it is extremely difficult and just doesn't seem like my body is built this way even with a half swing

So rather than fighting it should the head be more right of center when setting up with the hands at impact fix?

thanks all

[birdie_man]

There ya go. You've taken it hook, line and sinker. You believe that LBG is opposed to the base of the neck pivot center. Where did you get that idea?

Bah no hook line or sinker I don't think. What I understand is Lynn and company (if you will) prefer the "tripod." I dunno....I've just never seen much emphasis on anything else. (ever) Maybe I have it wrong but I dunno. Please fill me in if I'm wrong. Honestly. (I'm really not being sarcastic...I want to get that across)

In my spare time, I'll be mining for specific references where Lynn says base of the neck is a valid option. Won't take long, but I'd much rather work on videos. Ah here we go...

Start here and if you want the abbreviated version, go to the last page of the thread. http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...?t=2008&page=7

I dunno Bagger....I don't see anything. ??

Want more.
I think I've already provided a pretty good set of links on the subject in the poll thread.

I haven't gone through them recently Bagger.

But people should who missed the "backstory."

[Bagger Lance]

No problemo Birdie.
It's totally understandable why there is so much confusion.
Take a look at the links when you get a chance and think objectively.

There is also some good information in those links about...dare I say it...head movement in the backswing.
We're learn'in though, and that's why we keep the lights on in this place.

Thanks,

Bagger

[6bmike]

My left wrist is flat at setup and right wrist bent, my head is centered in between my feet (nose i guess is level with the ball when using a wedge from center of stance).

By the top of the backswing my head has moved back probably 2-3 inches - i've been trying to avoid this but it is extremely difficult and just doesn't seem like my body is built this way even with a half swing

So rather than fighting it should the head be more right of center when setting up with the hands at impact fix?

thanks all

I don't know Smooth. Classic Hitter's wrist set-up at address.
Without seeing the motion, perhaps clearing the right hip before the take-away will allow you to "sit back" on your right back pocket and rotate around the spine. Do you use a right forearm Take Away or use a shoulder turn to move the arms?

[smooth]

I don't know Smooth. Classic Hitter's wrist set-up at address.
Without seeing the motion, perhaps clearing the right hip before the take-away will allow you to "sit back" on your right back pocket and rotate around the spine. Do you use a right forearm Take Away or use a shoulder turn to move the arms?

Trying to use the right forearm pickup but ends up being a blend of shoulder turn as well as that's what i have been doing for many years....

[6bmike]

Trying to use the right forearm pickup but ends up being a blend of shoulder turn as well as that's what i have been doing for many years....

The RFT is a golf move and the shoulders do turn. It is a true Hands controled pivot away from the ball.

Now I am not saying that the head moving away from the target one or two inches is wrong. It does but still remains "centered." I will let who ever wants to agrue and call names alone- I don't care. BUT... if you feel it is moving 2-3 inches- as you told me- you are more than likely moving it much more. We just want to reduce that extra lateral move so the rest of the pivot is correct and functions its best.

I watch Els and Freddie, Hogan, Lynn Blake and others with world class golf strokes and put an eraser on their head while watching the video clip. The eraser tip covers the head cause it remained still. That is it in the nutshell. Does the head stay stationary so the left shoulder can rotate in a constent horizontal circle so the arms can swing on a constent inclined (vertical) path. The golf swing.


From the egg- hope to be out one day, 6b

[smooth]

The RFT is a golf move and the shoulders do turn. It is a true Hands controled pivot away from the ball.

Now I am not saying that the head moving away from the target one or two inches is wrong. It does but still remains "centered." I will let who ever wants to agrue and call names alone- I don't care. BUT... if you feel it is moving 2-3 inches- as you told me- you are more than likely moving it much more. We just want to reduce that extra lateral move so the rest of the pivot is correct and functions its best.

I watch Els and Freddie, Hogan, Lynn Blake and others with world class golf strokes and put an eraser on their head while watching the video clip. The eraser tip covers the head cause it remained still. That is it in the nutshell. Does the head stay stationary so the left shoulder can rotate in a constent horizontal circle so the arms can swing on a constent inclined (vertical) path. The golf swing.


From the egg- hope to be out one day, 6b

Thanks 6b... the only reason why i've been a bit concerned about this as it seems to shift the low point of my stroke back correspondingly by a similar amount (say 2-3 inches). The impact position looks really good, flat left wrist etc but it is a few inches behind where it should be so i need to scoop at the last minute to get at the ball.

Back to work on trying to keep it as still as possible i think with maybe moving the head just a tad right of center...