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Old 09-11-2006, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
http://www.nike.com/nikegolf/swingpo...gportrait_tout

Is this Tiger at his best or was it the swing from the 2000 U.S. Open. It's an argument that no one could win. He's one of the greatest athletes that's ever played. But, Homer said that even the best are constantly changing their swings.

My point is to be careful with pictures of great golfers. When was the picture taken? What was the player trying to accomplish or change? I could take a picture of Tiger hitting a ball from under a bush. If that was the only picture that you ever saw of Tiger and you modeled you swing after that picture, you might not like the end result.

Homer gave us all the options and all of the consequences. Photos in magazines or videos might not.
I certainly agree that photos and video can mislead. Always best to get out and see the top players in person to really get a feel for what they are doing.

As for now vs 2000 - 2000 - because that motion was IMO more on 'auto', vs now where Tiger is fighting his tempo as a 'swinger' and his clubface control is in his right hand thanks to a left hand grip that doesn't match the motion he is trying to make.

That said, his current motion is 'almost' better than 2000, and could be with a few minor adjustments. Much better plane now, but his left hand grip is the reason he is fighting the new swing, and his tempo/balance issues have less margin for error now than in 2000, when he was more of a hitter.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
I certainly agree that photos and video can mislead. Always best to get out and see the top players in person to really get a feel for what they are doing.

As for now vs 2000 - 2000 - because that motion was IMO more on 'auto', vs now where Tiger is fighting his tempo as a 'swinger' and his clubface control is in his right hand thanks to a left hand grip that doesn't match the motion he is trying to make.

That said, his current motion is 'almost' better than 2000, and could be with a few minor adjustments. Much better plane now, but his left hand grip is the reason he is fighting the new swing, and his tempo/balance issues have less margin for error now than in 2000, when he was more of a hitter.
There is a different left hand grip for swingers vs. hitters? What is Tiger's current left hand grip and what should it be?
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:01 AM
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IMO - his left hand (mainly thumb position) is a 'bit' on the weak side, which along with getting off tempo, tends to contribute to the 'wide right' shot he hits at times. When his tempo is on, CF takes care of squaring up. Not a big change, but one that would allow both the left and right wedges to be in place without having to 'time' or 'do' something.

The grip is the foundation of a pattern. Ideally 10-2-B is the grip for both hitter and swinger, but there are advantages to the variations depending on the rest of the pattern.
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Old 09-13-2006, 10:17 AM
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Tiger's Pattern in TGM Terms
Originally Posted by YodasLuke
My first lesson was at 9am and I finished today at 7pm. I'm not complaining, but I do need some time to do what you've asked. I need to give my brain a little rest, but I'll try to get to it as soon as I can.
I've got another full day tomorrow, so I need some .

We haven't heard back on this one...describing Tiger's pattern.
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:01 PM
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Edz mentioned the grip. Learning the proper RFT, tracing the straight baseline plane line and stationary head Tiger would have a TGM non compensating swing. He is almost there now.
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