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Old 04-22-2007, 09:09 PM
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Rotated shoulder turn
Can we discuss in depth on this subject?

In 7th Edition total motion .. Shoulder is Rotated .

Is this truly better? Can somebody cast more insight on this ?

Thank you.
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Old 04-22-2007, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nuke99 View Post
Can we discuss in depth on this subject?

In 7th Edition total motion .. Shoulder is Rotated .

Is this truly better? Can somebody cast more insight on this ?

Thank you.
Makes it easier for the arms and the pivot to work together aiding the player in achieving pivot rhythm (6-B-3-0)
Allows the head to stay "on top" of the ball during the backstroke per the first Essential.
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Old 04-23-2007, 02:47 AM
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Thanks Denny, my question is also Std vs flat vs rotated shoulder turn ,,, any special advantages using No.1 shoulder always on plane. ( which compda also covered) No.2 shoulder only on plane during the downswing.

7th edition model is not the same as MORAD or ONE plane swing model right?
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:48 PM
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Rotated is rt angle to spine.So is morad.Only way to keep head still.
Allows for necessary (little understood )spine shifts.
Rotated can help you stay on plane, given proper knee/hip motion. I find in my own motion, that rotated trends toward an angled hinge. A helpful combination in playing a high fade for an angled hinge swinger.
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:46 PM
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a shoulder plane for pitch elbow? It seems to me that rotated would be difficult for pitch, any comments?
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by nuke99 View Post
Can we discuss in depth on this subject?

In 7th Edition total motion .. Shoulder is Rotated .

Is this truly better? Can somebody cast more insight on this ?

Thank you.
I believe so, if the club is allowed to follow the arms and hands and the arms and hands are allowed to follow the shoulder rotation, which has the least of degree of freedom and means the most pricision.
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Old 04-25-2007, 09:01 AM
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Rotated can help you stay on plane, given proper knee/hip motion. I find in my own motion, that rotated trends toward an angled hinge. A helpful combination in playing a high fade for an angled hinge swinger.
I feel the same. The rotated shoulder tends toward angled hinging versus standard shoulder turn. Any reasons why?
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Old 04-25-2007, 08:43 PM
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