Hi Daz, thanks for your post. Interesting to try one of those offset cobra monsters like you did...always been scared off by the ugly looks...
I think that I might have muddled up the "offset" effect of the clubhead ( change in COG leads to closure at impact etc) with "hookface" which is merely to do with way the face and lie angle combine...maybe....not sure still...still in a muddle from Matthews posts....
I'm uploading it now - need Lynn to review it first.
It takes up to 3 hours for some of these videos to upload. I run off a cable modem so upload speed is pretty slow.
The original video was probably shot in 8mm, then converted to VCR, then converted to CD. I had to convert it to wmv for site. Some of the audio and video didn't get synchronized very well somewhere down the line and there isn't anything I can do to make it better, but overall its still really good content.
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Ed! Could you expand on the above???? Very imporant . . . .
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Yep... the basic, the hands are the 'last link' in the chain.
I don't want to get side tracked into a push vs pull discussion, but if the hands are ahead of the ball at impact, with lag pressure, they are pulling (relative to the clubhead).
You can't have lag pressure in the hands if the hands (pressure points) are not leading.
So if the hands are the last part of the body that has control of the club, and they are, by definition, leading the club to have lag pressure, then we should pay a lot of attention to those hands!
The mind is in the hands.
The 'plane' of the hands, as I define it, is a line drawn from the hands at the top/end, through the hands at impact, to a spot on the ground along that line. For all but a zero accumulator #3 motion, that spot is 'inside' the clubhead/sweet spot, inside the ball-target line.
The plane the pressure points travel on in space. More specifically, the plane pressure point #1 travels on during a true 'zero shift' swing.
For a few examples of how to see this more clearly, take a look through the drills section (linked in my signature), specifically at the drill in a pool.
Easy to see and do on a horizontal plane, a bit more confusing for many on the inclined plane.
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First of all, I did not read through this entire thread but I have a question that has been puzzling me for weeks now. Understand that I am fairly new to TGM and I am learning alot through LBG.com. Anyway, my question is in regards to the extensor action. The problem I am trying to understand or visualize in my mind's eye is Below Plane. I cannot see this Below Plane and I do not understand what it looks like or what I am trying to feel with the hands. What I think I understand is that Below Plane is directly underneath the plane line somewhere in the dirt. If possible, could someone please help me understand so that I can visualize the Below Plane--thanks.
First of all, I did not read through this entire thread but I have a question that has been puzzling me for weeks now. Understand that I am fairly new to TGM and I am learning alot through LBG.com. Anyway, my question is in regards to the extensor action. The problem I am trying to understand or visualize in my mind's eye is Below Plane. I cannot see this Below Plane and I do not understand what it looks like or what I am trying to feel with the hands. What I think I understand is that Below Plane is directly underneath the plane line somewhere in the dirt. If possible, could someone please help me understand so that I can visualize the Below Plane--thanks.
At address, unless you have zero #3 accumulator (high hands/shaft/forearms in line like Moe Norman), the direction your left arm is pointing, down, will be 'inside' the ball/target line (closer to your toes).
Extensor action can be thought of as trying to extend your left arm, stretch it longer in the direction it points, and since it points inside the ball/target line, that stretch is 'below' the plane.
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Wait, Bat Girl was really Commissioner Gordon's daughter, so therefor..
Bucket, are you up for a few more rounds on the "Most Misunderstoods"?
If so, Im foggy on 10-3-K the Bat Minor Basic Stroke, Arm Motion. How can the right elbow replace the Left Shoulder as the center of the Clubhead orbit? How can the Flat Left Wrist not be essential? etc. I dont get it.
My reason for asking is two fold: Im goofing with Hitting and loving it but dont want to risk injury to my old squash elbow (which forced me to quit the game) so far so good however no twinges. Secondly, in trying to figure out the 2-J-3 Angle Of Approach Procedure's Straight Line, "Steeper than you think" clubhead arc (which I am nowhere close to figuring out, has anyone?) Mr Kelley mentions an "uncentered linear motion out to right field", which perhaps relates to the above. How do you uncenter a stroke with a taught Left Arm, Primary Lever?
I get that the Right Arm is Powering the Clubhead directly not powering the Primary Lever assembly. I get that Thrust is straight line and I can imagine a straight line Clubhead path requiring the Left Arm and Club , Primary Lever to be uncentered at the left shoulder BUT the only way I can imagine it is via a slackening in the Left Arm or Radius. Is there another way? I hope so cause Im so sold on Swing Radius, Taking up the Slack, the Flat Left Wrist , Extensor Action etc What gives?
"Now my swing is very right sided. It feels sort of like a right arm flying wedge that stretches a relaxed left arm. The right side is under the left. The right hip goes back. The right arm takes the club away. The right elbow bends, cocking the left wrist. I bump and drive the right shoulder down plane."
Great visualizations of sensations. Very helpful! I too have been [or been trying to be] left-side-dominant for years, decades even. And as you report, as soon as I went to a flat left wrist, right elbow bend, and extension of both arms in the downswing, I felt awkward as heck (particularly going back; less so in the latter stages of the downswing) and could barely imagine--as stiff and "contrived" as all this felt--that I'd be able to hit the ball solidly, much less really forcefully and online. But that's exactly what has happened. With my old, left-focused swing, I felt like I was swinging 100+ mph and the ball flew like 80 mph, not to mention wildly inconsistent. Now I feel like I'm swinging 80 mph and the ball flies like I'm swinging 100+ mph, with heretofore undreamed-of accuracy and consistency. Oh, yeah, I still mishit and misjudge, but that's golf.
Truly appreciate the explanations, theories, observations provided here, as when we're self-medicating on the course or on the range, we need visualizations and vicarious observations to help make meaning of what we think and feel (and think we feel, for that matter). Kudos! -- JC
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