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Old 05-20-2008, 11:24 PM
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I don't think that I really understand the action of power accumulator #3.

When HK talks of the "? clubshaft" seeking to be in line with the left arm, is this from a face-on view or DTL view.

Here is a photo of Tiger Woods through impact.



I have drawn colored lines to represent the different power accumulator angles.

Blue lines - PA #4 angle
Yellow lines - PA#1 angle
Red Lines - PA#2 angle.
Green Lines - PA#3 angle

Have I correctly represented PA#3?

I have understood it to be the situation where the release swivel occurs causing the left hand to roll over so that it approaches the impact location with forward clubshaft lean (which means that the clubshaft is not in-line with the left arm thereby implying incomplete PA#3 release). However, after impact (image 3) the left arm and clubshaft are in a straight line thereby implying complete release of PA#3. Am I wrong, and is the PA#3 angle best seen, and understood, from the DTL view?

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Old 05-21-2008, 12:28 AM
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Upon further review, I now think I understand Bucket. And may God have mercy on poor innocent soul.

The #3 angle is turned to reveal its power, the more it is angled the more potential power it has. It matters not if it is turned via swivel or hinging.

To answer your question. The best view would be from a camera mounted to a rod driven through the A team. In other words, "it seeks to maintain its radial alignment" means the maintenance of the LFFW?

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Old 05-21-2008, 05:17 AM
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Question.. did I see Tiger's right wrist unbent?...
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
I don't think that I really understand the action of power accumulator #3.

When HK talks of the "? clubshaft" seeking to be in line with the left arm, is this from a face-on view or DTL view.

Here is a photo of Tiger Woods through impact.



I have drawn colored lines to represent the different power accumulator angles.

Blue lines - PA #4 angle
Yellow lines - PA#1 angle
Red Lines - PA#2 angle.
Green Lines - PA#3 angle

Have I correctly represented PA#3?

I have understood it to be the situation where the release swivel occurs causing the left hand to roll over so that it approaches the impact location with forward clubshaft lean (which means that the clubshaft is not in-line with the left arm thereby implying incomplete PA#3 release). However, after impact (image 3) the left arm and clubshaft are in a straight line thereby implying complete release of PA#3. Am I wrong, and is the PA#3 angle best seen, and understood, from the DTL view?

Jeff.
Jeff . . . It's probably easier to see what the #3 angle is from down the line or if the camera were positioned where the ball would fly over it.





Here's #3 Maintained


Now it's gone . . .
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:24 AM
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Jeff

Upon further review, I now think I understand Bucket. And may God have mercy on poor innocent soul.

The #3 angle is turned to reveal its power, the more it is angled the more potential power it has. It matters not if it is turned via swivel or hinging.

To answer your question. The best view would be from a camera mounted to a rod driven through the A team. In other words, "it seeks to maintain its radial alignment" means the maintenance of the LFFW?

Im out on a limb here a bit so please, everybody rip into me all at once.

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Kinda . . . you are sniffin' it pretty good . . .

This would be my OPINION on more #3 and it's relation to plane angle and staying on plane.

1. Flatter Planes = more #3
2. Release motions according to Mr. K are #2 and #3 . . . so it's a blend right?
3. The more #3 you have . . . the more #3 dependent your release is . . .you have #3 bias . . .
4. Flat planes are #3 dependent more so . . . Steep planes are more #2 dependent . . .
5. All this can change IF you disrupt #3 from what you have programed in at Fix . . . In other words, let's say you set up the club with the amount of shaft lean and handle height that you intend at impact . . . take your grip from their. You have just established your "intended" plane requirements (#3 requirment) at Impact. Now lets say that you have an improper start down and you have to do something like stand up (Bob) . . . you just shifted your plane angle from what you programed in at Fix. This is one reason why right shoulder location is soooooooooo important. You can disrupt the whole shootin' match and this impacts the amount of face closure you have which can screw up your intended hinging etc.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:30 AM
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I don't think that I really understand the action of power accumulator #3.


Just keep in mind that the Left Arm and Clubshaft Rotate as a single unit together (#3 Accumulator motion). For a Swinger, the Swivel may facilitate the #3 Accumulator Roll (the swivel helps keep the Clubhead on Plane by preventing a bent Plane Line), but the Swivel is not #3 Accumulator.

About #4 Accumulator.

Consider the Power Package. The Power Package moves as a single unit. The Power Package must be moved into the Release Zone in-tact. This will cause the Left Arm to move down the chest as the Right Elbow moves down (as determined by the Right Shoulder).
The Left Arm (Straight Line Delivery Path of the Hands) operates on two Planes of Motion. Vertical and Horizontal. The Vertical Plane of Motion is controlled by the Right Elbow Location (Power Package Delivery). The Horizontal Plane of motion straightens the Right Arm (Release) but does not destroy the Power Package.
The #4 Accumulator works on the Horizontal Plane of Motion. This way, Hitting or Swinging, the Flying Wedges maintain their geometrical alignment. If the #4 Accumulator goes Vertical, the Flying Wedges are ruined, because the Elbows spread apart which affects the Bent Right Wrist, etc.
So, the Beginning of the #4 Accumulator Release is when the Left Arm starts moving away from the Body on a Horizontal Plane and the Right Arm begins to Straighten. The End of #4 Accumulator Release occurs when Both Arms are Straight. The total Distance (not counting shoulder movement) is only 6-9” (the amount of right elbow bend).
The Release Interval is surprisingly fast. If we could slow motion the downswing from Top to Impact to 10 seconds, the Start of #4 Release is about the 8th second, #2 about 8.5 and #3 about 9.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:44 AM
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Just keep in mind that the Left Arm and Clubshaft Rotate as a single unit together (#3 Accumulator motion). For a Swinger, the Swivel may facilitate the #3 Accumulator Roll (the swivel helps keep the Clubhead on Plane by preventing a bent Plane Line), but the Swivel is not #3 Accumulator.

About #4 Accumulator.

Consider the Power Package. The Power Package moves as a single unit. The Power Package must be moved into the Release Zone in-tact. This will cause the Left Arm to move down the chest as the Right Elbow moves down (as determined by the Right Shoulder).
The Left Arm (Straight Line Delivery Path of the Hands) operates on two Planes of Motion. Vertical and Horizontal. The Vertical Plane of Motion is controlled by the Right Elbow Location (Power Package Delivery). The Horizontal Plane of motion straightens the Right Arm (Release) but does not destroy the Power Package.
The #4 Accumulator works on the Horizontal Plane of Motion. This way, Hitting or Swinging, the Flying Wedges maintain their geometrical alignment. If the #4 Accumulator goes Vertical, the Flying Wedges are ruined, because the Elbows spread apart which affects the Bent Right Wrist, etc.
So, the Beginning of the #4 Accumulator Release is when the Left Arm starts moving away from the Body on a Horizontal Plane and the Right Arm begins to Straighten. The End of #4 Accumulator Release occurs when Both Arms are Straight. The total Distance (not counting shoulder movement) is only 6-9” (the amount of right elbow bend).
The Release Interval is surprisingly fast. If we could slow motion the downswing from Top to Impact to 10 seconds, the Start of #4 Release is about the 8th second, #2 about 8.5 and #3 about 9.
Daryl . .. are you saying you release #4 HORIZONTAL . . . parallel to the ground?

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Old 05-21-2008, 09:53 AM
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Daryl . .. are you saying you release #4 HORIZONTAL . . . parallel to the ground?

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Sorry, no. Away from the Body. Blast off the Chest.
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:01 PM
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Bucket, Daryl thank you. This is great stuff.

Not wanting to take the discussion at hand away from #4 too much but I have to ask:

Although they fire at different times do they all go "in line" at follow through?

After follow through #2 re cocks, #1 stays straight a la Hogans one iron photo #4 keeps its 90 degrees to the shoulder although the left arm does move up vertically #3 stays put after swiveling onto the plane and completing its turn.

Tiger, Hogan and Moe sort of hold onto the fully uncocked #2 for a while. Why? Perhaps because they got to fully uncocked where as most people dont? Perhaps thats where the golfing machine lives, is that why?
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Sorry, no. Away from the Body. Blast off the Chest.

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