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Old 02-10-2009, 04:33 PM
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Pay very close attention to how well Hogan keeps his hands and chest in synch.

This is a perfect example of what 'connection' is, and is a core reason why Hogan was so consistent (and even why someone like Curtis Strange could move around so much, and still have a lot of success).

Excellent views of Hogan's motion.
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Old 02-10-2009, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hg View Post
The link is not working for me...am I missing a program that plays it?
Go to www.adobe.com

select downloads, select 'get flash player'
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:46 PM
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Pay very close attention to how well Hogan keeps his hands and chest in synch.

Yes this speaks directly to GPStyles' revelation, that with the proper set of high waisted slacks he could have a "keep the underside of your upper arms glued to your belt" mental image to make this connection you speak of automatic.


Edz, what is it about Hogans swing? There is something so beautiful but I cant articulate what it is really, or why I even like it. It defines something but I know not what. Is it CF?

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Old 02-11-2009, 08:12 AM
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i think he is just like a machine. Sergio has some of it, but he seems to manipulate alot in the hitting area, Hogan just seems to flow, awesome.
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:55 AM
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what is it about Hogans swing? There is something so beautiful but I cant articulate what it is really, or why I even like it. It defines something but I know not what. Is it CF?
He is always in control of the club. The club never controls him. He also has outstanding Accumulator Lag 6-C-0 (Storage 6-D-0) and a long Follow Through 8-11.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:33 PM
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He is always in control of the club. The club never controls him. He also has outstanding Accumulator Lag 6-C-0 (Storage 6-D-0) and a long Follow Through 8-11.


Yes good notes. There is controlled lag of the highest order. As if there is something special in his relationship with inertia . Like he wants all he can possibly get and he will nurse it for a long as he can? A giant vessel of lag with a steady, slow release valve.

I cant explain his swings majesty. And I cant think of another example in golf or sports in general of a motion so studied or universally appealing. Maybe in the arts, maybe it is art.

If, after theoretical golf surgery, our hands were truly just clamps, with their range of motion restricted in certain directions, would we all tend to look more Hogan like? Its all about the hands again maybe.

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Old 02-11-2009, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Yes this speaks directly to GPStyles' revelation, that with the proper set of high waisted slacks he could have a "keep the underside of your upper arms glued to your belt" mental image to make this connection you speak of automatic.


Edz, what is it about Hogans swing? There is something so beautiful but I cant articulate what it is really, or why I even like it. It defines something but I know not what. Is it CF?

ob
He is perfectly in balance, on plane, and in Rhythm with a very stable center. And of course, a master of maintaining lag pressure, which I'd say he can feel all the way from his feet, to PP #3.

The connection isn't an 'action', it is a result of proper Rhythm and balance. If you look at players who had contact with Hogan, they all are great examples of that hands to chest relationship. Venturi, Knudson, Faldo to name a few. Mike Austin had this as well (as can be seen in his training aid, the 'flamer'). One of the big keys to why the figure 8 strap is a great training aid - learning the feel of that relationship.
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:19 AM
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Here's some stop action captures of Mr. Hogan showing arm positions at setup and impact for two swings...Yoda may have some comments

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What were you going to tell us about the arm positions

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Old 03-01-2009, 09:10 PM
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Hogan's swing addiction
Hogan was the swing ideal for all of my golf buddies and we tried to imitate him more than anyone. Sure we could do a pretty good Trevino or a Bobby Jones/Payne Stewart but doing a Hogan swing was the most fun because it didn't require reaching for the sky. That kept us from getting steep and fatting it like we did imitating Jack or Tom.

Reading this, it may be that you have to be a boomer to be addicted to Hogan's swing.
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:28 AM
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6-c-0. hogan and hands controlling pivot.
picture 1 pivot lag , accumulator lag and clubhead lag

picture 2 less pivot lag , less accumulator lag and clubhead lag

and 2-m-3 , " unless pivot thrust actually drives #4 accumulator through impact , its assignmentduring that interval is more clearly defined if considered as delivery , guidance and support of the power package , because it may or may not have contributed anything but motion during delivery ."

all controlled by pressure point #3



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