vj: My putting is dreadful . I average 36 putts per round . I am a better than average long putter and make more 15 to 20 ft putts than I ought to but I can not make should make 4 ft putts or might make 8 ft putts. Hitting mainly pulls but blocks also. I am happy to start from scratch . Can you go into your thoughts on putting from stroke to posture . I know many here would be more than interested in your insights. I left this post on the Manzella forum