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Old 05-10-2009, 07:35 AM
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Magic of the Right Forearm
Is my understanding the Magic of the Right Forearm kerrect?


Re-re-research makes me think that the “Magic of the Right Forearm” has two distinct procedures.

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Furthermore, in compliance with 6-B-3-0-1, Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the Left Arm and/or COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist without Bending, Flattening or Cocking the Right Wrist. Practice this first at Impact Fix. So, the Right Elbow Action either powers and/or controls all three elements of Three Dimensional Impact (6-C-0) per 1-L-9. All this you will come to know as the MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM.
Hitting Procedure:
  1. Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the Left Arm and COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist without Bending, Flattening or Cocking the Right Wrist.
  2. And, the Right Elbow Action both powers and controls all three elements of Three Dimensional Impact.
  3. Hitters use Single Wrist Action and Extensor Action Take-Away to acquire these Alignments and Actions.

Swinging Procedure:
  1. Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist without Bending, Flattening or Cocking the Right Wrist.
  2. And, the Right Elbow controls all three elements of Three Dimensional Impact.
  3. Swingers use Standard Wrist Action and Extensor Action Take-Away to acquire these Alignments and Actions.

Hitters Focus on Cocking their Right Elbows 6-B-3-A, Swingers focus on Cocking their Left Wrist. See 7-20

(note to OB. This makes your understanding correct and I was mistaken thinking that Hitters don't bend the Right Elbow)
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Old 05-10-2009, 06:42 PM
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Is my understanding the Magic of the Right Forearm kerrect?


Re-re-research makes me think that the “Magic of the Right Forearm” has two distinct procedures.



Hitting Procedure:
  1. Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the Left Arm and COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist without Bending, Flattening or Cocking the Right Wrist.
  2. And, the Right Elbow Action both powers and controls all three elements of Three Dimensional Impact.
  3. Hitters use Single Wrist Action and Extensor Action Take-Away to acquire these Alignments and Actions.

Swinging Procedure:
  1. Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist without Bending, Flattening or Cocking the Right Wrist.
  2. And, the Right Elbow controls all three elements of Three Dimensional Impact.
  3. Swingers use Standard Wrist Action and Extensor Action Take-Away to acquire these Alignments and Actions.

Hitters Focus on Cocking their Right Elbows 6-B-3-A, Swingers focus on Cocking their Left Wrist. See 7-20

(note to OB. This makes your understanding correct and I was mistaken thinking that Hitters don't bend the Right Elbow)


Hey Daryl

Ive been doing some re research too. Having been mainly Hitting of late, Ive been really working on the right elbow or arm just pushing the Primary Lever through the shot. No sense of turn, roll, left wrist cock and uncock etc. It does cock but on its own when the right side of triangle shortens. Like a steam shovel or crane type deal. It is a simple and deadly straight method of doing things.
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Old 05-10-2009, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Hey Daryl

Ive been doing some re research too. Having been mainly Hitting of late, Ive been really working on the right elbow or arm just pushing the Primary Lever through the shot. No sense of turn, roll, left wrist cock and uncock etc. It does cock but on its own when the right side of triangle shortens. Like a steam shovel or crane type deal. It is a simple and deadly straight method of doing things.
I've been looking at it from a mechanics point of view and from there, I think that it's a smart way to golf. Swingers need so much flexibility. I've been looking at a lot of hitters and many seem to use the Right Arm Throw. I remember playing with guys that swing like this (though with elbows a little closer to their side than TGM Hitters). I didn't know what they were doing at the time, and neither did they maybe, but there's no mistaking it from a swinger. It looks like they're more in control. Maybe I'll give it a try.
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Hitting has been quite a revealation for me as well. Permission to use the right arm, who would have thought???

Precision alignments are soooo important. As a recovering "feel" player, I am amazed at the difference precision can make at set up. Right forearm on plane, left wrist flat and level. I am finding impact address with a straight line from my left shoulder through the shaft to be beneficial as well, especially in basic and acquired motion. Things I never thought of trying before...

As Yoda says in the Brian Gay video, it's just habit, why not do it properly, EVERY time!

I enjoy all of your posts guys.

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May I join the party?

Hitting has been quite a revealation for me as well. Permission to use the right arm, who would have thought???

Precision alignments are soooo important. As a recovering "feel" player, I am amazed at the difference precision can make at set up. Right forearm on plane, left wrist flat and level. I am finding impact address with a straight line from my left shoulder through the shaft to be beneficial as well, especially in basic and acquired motion. Things I never thought of trying before...

As Yoda says in the Brian Gay video, it's just habit, why not do it properly, EVERY time!

I enjoy all of your posts guys.

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Hi Kevin

How has the transition been for you?
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Hi Kevin

How has the transition been for you?
Well, it started with the putting yips, then the chip yips, last year I added the driver yips. Couldn't even hit balls on the range for fear of killing either one of my members, a neighbor, or some poor soul having the bad luck of traveling down the highway adjacent to our second hole while I was letting it fly.

I quit golf last year.

Now I am back hitting balls, even with my members close enough to watch, playing, having fun again! All thanks to Mr. Kelley and the Golfing Machine, along with Yoda and folks here like you guys who have helped me learn...

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Ted and I worked on this in my last lesson. At first I was not doing it correctly. I was actually moving the right elbow straight back while I was tracing the right forearm. After look at some pics on this site, I realized my right elbow needs to stay in a fixed position (or close to it) while the right forearm fans. This puts me in very good positions in the takeaway.

I then realized that I'm best off when my right elbow is nearby my rib cages. Here's some before and after pics of my swing at the top in just a 2 day span.




The top pic is with a 6-iron and the bottom pic is with an 8-iron. I hit the ball entirely better with the bottom pic type of backswing. Just fan the right forearm and keep the right elbow nearby the right rib cage.

Before I had to *think* to some level of what direction I wanted to take the club back. Now, I just let the right forearm fan and I'm off to a good start. It also makes me more keenly aware of the right elbow.

The big problem I also had with the top pic type of swing is that I would lose the sense of my right forearm flying wedge. For whatever reason, the bottom pic with the flatter swing plane I'm more aware of my right forearm flying wedge.

Here's a pic of my latest impact position.



It's not exactly great, but much better than it has been in a long time. And I actually have video of even better impact alignments, but I can't get the video to stop at the right time. And I still have a lot of work to do in other parts of the swing.

But the magic of the right forearm for me is that it is [Isimple[/i]. I don't have to think so much. Just fan the forearm and you're off to a good start. Combine that with making me more aware of my right side, I like where this is going.




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Excellent post 3Jack. Your work with Ted is the model for me, I look at your set up alignments every morning. You guys have done some FANTASTIC work!

Kevin

BTW, I'm usually in my underwear when I am looking at your pictures and reading your blog, but I'm old and harmless, not a stalker, promise!
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It's getting there, slowly but surely. Ted and I have only had 4 lessons so far and the improvements have been mind blowing. We've only used the video camera in 2 of the lessons, but that's fine because it's easy to understand his instruction. However, I really value the camcorder after the lesson and I tape about every other practice range session, just to make sure that I'm doing what we went over or I'm pointed in the right direction and I'm not forming any new bad habits. Really speeds up the learning process.

After I stopped recording today, I was hitting the ball even better and really feeling that 'push' with the right hand, compressing the ball and hitting a more boring trajectory and not missing the sweetspot. What JOY! Wish I would've taped that last half hour of shots. Hopefully I can get out and play tomorrow and bring it to the course.




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Old 05-11-2009, 05:25 AM
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Well, it started with the putting yips, then the chip yips, last year I added the driver yips. Couldn't even hit balls on the range for fear of killing either one of my members, a neighbor, or some poor soul having the bad luck of traveling down the highway adjacent to our second hole while I was letting it fly.

I quit golf last year.

Now I am back hitting balls, even with my members close enough to watch, playing, having fun again! All thanks to Mr. Kelley and the Golfing Machine, along with Yoda and folks here like you guys who have helped me learn...

Kevin
Hey, that's good news. I think I'm going to give it a shot.
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