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Old 12-12-2009, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gmbtempe View Post
Couple questions for the masses...

1. When doing basic motion, is there one club or another that is best to use?

2. Moving to acquired should you be using the same club?

3. I would love to hear from Yoda's Luke what were some of the general advice you gave to help the student get into these positions. The student had about the worst flip you can have on the left, on the right you would assume he was a very good player without knowing anything about his game.
Great questions Greg. I look forward to the answers.

A lot of non TGM teachers preach that to obtain a flat left wrist, you must do it with the pivot. In this case the student has flattened his left wrist while at the same time using zero pivot exactly as Mr. Kelley suggested. I have to believe when he moves to acquired motion with the addition of a little shoulder turn, he will have an even easier time maintaining these alignments.

I need to quit cheating and zero out my pivot for basic motion. If this gent can do it...

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Old 12-12-2009, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bray View Post
Darryl,

Hinging does not always have to be angled for Basic Motion.
It is up to the player to decide what hinging they would like to employ two feet back and through....which creates the desired effect on the golf balls travel.

Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.

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But, strictly by the book, #3 is zeroed out.
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Old 12-12-2009, 02:45 PM
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But, strictly by the book, #3 is zeroed out.
Meaning the #3 Angle is zeroed by gripping it along the life line in the left hand, like we commonly do when putting. Its a little teeny tiny, stroke, like a putting stroke , 2' back and 2' through. A little chip that bumps the ball a few feet from the very edge of a green say. You can employ any hinge action in putting or in basic though the roll power associated with #3 angle is zeroed to deaden the send for such precise little shots. Its a power regulation adjustment to aid in our distance control.

Hey, is putting Basic? Never thought about that before. Oh oh, where's my book?

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Old 12-12-2009, 03:24 PM
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Meaning the #3 Angle is zeroed by gripping it along the life line in the left hand, like we commonly do when putting. Its a little teeny tiny, stroke, like a putting stroke , 2' back and 2' through. A little chip that bumps the ball a few feet from the very edge of a green say. You can employ any hinge action in putting or in basic though the roll power associated with #3 angle is zeroed to deaden the send for such precise little shots. Its a power regulation adjustment to aid in our distance control.

Hey, is putting Basic? Never thought about that before. Oh oh, where's my book?
Dear OB.

Hinge Action isn't longitudinal spin.

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Doing the above drill with Zero Accumulator #3 (6-B-3-B) will show that then, all Lag Loading and Hinge Action have Angled Hinging Travel AND Rhythm.
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Old 12-12-2009, 03:47 PM
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I'll have to go read the book but "all Lag Loading and Hinge Action"..... there should maybe an "s" on the end of "Action" to help clarify things maybe.

".......have Angled Hinging Travel....." To me meaning that with the #3 Angle zeroed via gripping it in the life line and bringing the club and left arm inline from DTL, ie flattening out or zeroing the #3 angle at the left wrist.......any of the three Hinge Actions will have the corresponding TRAVEL normally associated with Angled Hinge Action. Which is zero. Zero out the #3 Angle to zero out the associated clubhead Travel. Zeroing out " roll power". A power regulation or metering consideration, machine adjustment.

I never did know why I gripped the putter like that. Its interesting to me that a lot of us adopted that grip without knowledge of Homer's #3 Power Accumulator, its travel, its power and the benefits to zeroing it out when facing delicate little shots where distance control is key. You can also further regulate the send associated with any particular lag pressure by gripping down on the club too......shortening the lever. Intentional mis hit off the toe for those tricky little downhill putts etc. These are power regulation things.

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Old 12-12-2009, 04:16 PM
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Yodasluke,over what period was this session-1hour? and did you advocate swing or hit?

the difference is immense and very impressive
It was 45 minutes. Most are Swingers, but I have a good percentage of students that can Hit.
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:21 PM
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the practice green
Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
...which is why Yoda and Luke prefer to teach it around a putting green.
It's true that it's almost impossible to get anyone to do Basic Motion on the range. You have to have a flag less than 10 yards away to get anyone to keep the stroke less than two feet back and two feet through.

P.S. I did get a laugh out of the "painfully small" part.
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:42 PM
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It's true that it's almost impossible to get anyone to do Basic Motion on the range. You have to have a flag less than 10 yards away to get anyone to keep the stroke less than two feet back and two feet through.

P.S. I did get a laugh out of the "painfully small" part.


The pain was all mine as you and Yoda were watching me try to get the thing down to 2' x 2' as I recall. Basic Motion is not easy.
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Old 12-12-2009, 08:47 PM
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ok, went out to do some work, think this is aquired? Its a gap wedge. Here is the video and images.


any comments?





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Old 12-12-2009, 08:58 PM
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Greg,

In my opinion you can go a little further back for acquired motion:

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12-5-2 ACQUIRED MOTION
Motion not to exceed the level-to-the-ground position of the Right Forearm. Zero Pivot except Shoulder Turn. Add Accumulator #3 and any needed Shoulder Turn.
But the definition isn't as important as the great work you have done. Simply beautiful. I would love to see your acquired motion 2 months ago, it wouldn't even resemble what you have now. FANTASTIC!

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