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Old 07-06-2010, 09:59 AM
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The best way to catch Paul is on iSeek. His handle there is TheDart. He interacts a lot over there, in fact is one of the founders of the forum. I'm sorry, I was thinking earlier the Melbourne was in New South Wales rather than Victoria. Never very good with geography. I spent a summer in Melbourne as an exchange student, I should know better. Paul is indeed in Sydney!

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I feel that on the down swing I start pulling with the left and before impact I start pushing with the right. I am unsure if this is actuality or simply sensation.
I think most teachers would agree with that comment 100%, in fact many would say there is no pure swinger, or no pure hitter. That's why I called it a "feel" thing, you can't argue someones "feel" and I don't care to debate the golf swing. OPTIONS!

Please let us know if you get to see our friend Paul!

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Well, if you ever get around to watching it be sure to let me know how it is.


Thanks for your explanation. In regards to pulling with the left or pushing with the right, I feel that on the down swing I start pulling with the left and before impact I start pushing with the right. I am unsure if this is actuality or simply sensation.


I would say that is a really good observation, Kevin. I have struggled to understand the lateral move that the hips must perform at the start of the down swing. Everytime I experimented, it felt as if I had excessive axis tilt. This was certainly my downfall whilst experimenting with "Stack and Tilt".


I assumed Paul Hart was located in Victoria (like Peter Croker). However, if he is in Sydney (New South Wales) then that would be ideal. I tried doing a Google search to see if he had a website with contact details and pricing, but had no luck. What is Paul's username on this forum? Hopefully, he won't mind if I PM him.

Thanks so much for all your help, Kevin. This forum is such a great resource.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:05 PM
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At the risk of running foul of Admin for posting Darty's details, his signature on iseek reads:

For tuition in Sydney call Paul Hart (TheDart} 0412 070 820.

Terry Hill’s, St. Michael’s or Milperra Driving Range


My signature reads:

The biggest lesson I ever learned was, not, whether it works or not, but, if it makes mechanical sense, do it ‘till it does work.

The day of smoke and mirrors is gone. Gimmicks are gone. Fundamentals have nothing to do with trial and error

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Old 07-06-2010, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GPStyles View Post
At the risk of running foul of Admin for posting Darty's details, his signature on iseek reads:

For tuition in Sydney call Paul Hart (TheDart} 0412 070 820.

Terry Hill’s, St. Michael’s or Milperra Driving Range


My signature reads:

The biggest lesson I ever learned was, not, whether it works or not, but, if it makes mechanical sense, do it ‘till it does work.

The day of smoke and mirrors is gone. Gimmicks are gone. Fundamentals have nothing to do with trial and error

The Dart
GP, one of my favorite quotes! I copied the same one in a PM to Ben.

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Old 07-07-2010, 01:24 PM
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Thanks for the help guys. I am going to watch "Alignment Golf" (when it arrives) and bring myself up to speed with TGM terminology. Once this occurs, I will definitely be going to see Paul Hart.

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Old 07-23-2010, 04:37 AM
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Well, I received the "Alignment Golf" DVDs yesterday and watched all of them last night. I identified some areas (extensor action and pivot) that I believed I needed to work on. Unfortunately, even after spending 7 hours today hitting golf balls, I was unable to make any progress (which I assume is due to incorrect execution).

I feel quite lost and confused at the moment. I was hoping that "Alignment Golf" was going to be the key to understanding how to build my swing pattern. However, I don't understand how to progress from basic motion, to acquired motion, to total motion. In addition, I don't understand how to identify what mechanics I am performing incorrectly. I know that mechanics are meant to produce feel and feel is meant to reproduce mechanics, but if I don't know how to perform the mechanics in the first place then it means very little.

Ultimately, it has been a frustrating 24 hours and I am sick of seeing out-to-in left pointing divots. Hopefully, tomorrow will be better.

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Old 07-23-2010, 07:53 AM
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BC85,

It's a long road, and worth every minute of the travel if you want to develop a swing for the rest of your life. No quick fixes, and no band-aids.

IMHO, TGM is the key to learning how to develop a stroke, and Alignment Golf is the key to learning TGM. You will need to add an instructor who understands TGM to the equation for faster progress. What you are learning from the videos will be a huge help in understanding what your teacher is looking for...

Kevin

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Well, I received the "Alignment Golf" DVDs yesterday and watched all of them last night. I identified some areas (extensor action and pivot) that I believed I needed to work on. Unfortunately, even after spending 7 hours today hitting golf balls, I was unable to make any progress (which I assume is due to incorrect execution).

I feel quite lost and confused at the moment. I was hoping that "Alignment Golf" was going to be the key to understanding how to build my swing pattern. However, I don't understand how to progress from basic motion, to acquired motion, to total motion. In addition, I don't understand how to identify what mechanics I am performing incorrectly. I know that mechanics are meant to produce feel and feel is meant to reproduce mechanics, but if I don't know how to perform the mechanics in the first place then it means very little.

Ultimately, it has been a frustrating 24 hours and I am sick of seeing out-to-in left pointing divots. Hopefully, tomorrow will be better.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:40 AM
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Thanks for the reassurance, Kevin. I am going to make another thread in the appropriate "Emergency Room" section (as I've since learnt that this thread was incorrectly placed) and see what other TGM enthusiasts think about my current pattern. I really appreciate all the help you have given me.
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:09 AM
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Thanks for the reassurance, Kevin. I am going to make another thread in the appropriate "Emergency Room" section (as I've since learnt that this thread was incorrectly placed) and see what other TGM enthusiasts think about my current pattern. I really appreciate all the help you have given me.
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Old 07-23-2010, 06:57 PM
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The DVD is great. At age 71 and over 20 years experience of and on with TGM I can't emphasize enough the importance of an instructor. Unfortunately you can't do it yourself no matter how high you IQ. You brain lies to you. The golf machine is filled with illusions and a endless assortment of "feels". However you need the basic "textbook" knowledge to get the most out of a lesson with an authorized instructor. You need to be able to speak the language. I would go see someone for several hours, the rewards will be beyound your expectations. I know Paul Hart and Paul Smith are wonderful at what they do. Go see one of em no matter the cost.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by david sandridge View Post
The DVD is great. At age 71 and over 20 years experience of and on with TGM I can't emphasize enough the importance of an instructor. Unfortunately you can't do it yourself no matter how high you IQ. You brain lies to you. The golf machine is filled with illusions and a endless assortment of "feels". However you need the basic "textbook" knowledge to get the most out of a lesson with an authorized instructor. You need to be able to speak the language. I would go see someone for several hours, the rewards will be beyound your expectations. I know Paul Hart and Paul Smith are wonderful at what they do. Go see one of em no matter the cost.
You really think TGM is that difficult to learn/implement?
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