ON short shots chipping or pitching, I have read both of the following set ups. "keep the ball between the elbow and the wrist'. 'keep the hand between the ball and the elbow'. A bit difficult to do both at the same time It does seem to me that keeping the hand between the ball and the elbow the shaft would be leaning backwards or the ball must be way forward in stance.... Please clarify or help me in my misunderstanding.