I think the message is rather "keep the hands, arms and body in synch" (Rythm).
I'm not sure what being in synch means. Does this allow for a freewheeling arm swing or have I (again) misunderstood something here? Are you talking about rhythm generally speaking or according to the TGM definition? But the main point is not to accelerate the hand speed it seems..?
I'm not sure what being in synch means. Does this allow for a freewheeling arm swing or have I (again) misunderstood something here?
Hi Air! I discovered something the other day researching "Right Shoulder" which has really helped me hit the ball better, and further.
We know we need to get the right hip/back hip out of the way by pre-turning or "MacDonalding", and then the shoulder flies true but did you realize that you can fire your right shoulder at the plane or aiming point after the little hip bump?
The hip bump or "Axis Tilt" lowers the back shoulder to the plane if you do not start from Impact Fix. Then you fire the shoulder.
Keeping my wedges firm and starting from Impact Fix allows me to hammer the bejeebers out of the ball with a sweet little power fade! My Hitting thought: "Ready to slap with right hand (RFT), SLAP! (Right Shoulder fires at the ball or Aiming Point to Both Arms Straight)!
Hope this helps!
ICT
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Hi Air! I discovered something the other day researching "Right Shoulder" which has really helped me hit the ball better, and further.
We know we need to get the right hip/back hip out of the way by pre-turning or "MacDonalding", and then the shoulder flies true but did you realize that you can fire your right shoulder at the plane or aiming point after the little hip bump?
The hip bump or "Axis Tilt" lowers the back shoulder to the plane if you do not start from Impact Fix. Then you fire the shoulder.
Keeping my wedges firm and starting from Impact Fix allows me to hammer the bejeebers out of the ball with a sweet little power fade! My Hitting thought: "Ready to slap with right hand (RFT), SLAP! (Right Shoulder fires at the ball or Aiming Point to Both Arms Straight)!
Hope this helps!
ICT
Maybe yo know all the
I'm starting to get the message (concept). The only thing is to get the body to do what it's supposed to do. The things you mention here (as a hitter) does it also apply for swinging?
I'm starting to get the message (concept). The only thing is to get the body to do what it's suposed to do. The things you mention here (as a hitter) does it also apply for swinging?
Air, the Swinger traces with Extensor Action along the Baseline of the Plane (I need to check this to see if it is the Target Line), but the Hitter covers the club face path (look this up it is really different).
The Swinger pulls the # 3 PP to the Inside quadrant of the ball or aiming Point whereas the Hitter forms the wedges at Impact Fix and drives the Right Shoulder at the ball, secondarily driving the Right Forearm and PP # 3.
For me, the Swinger pulls a left-handed karate chop at the ball and the Hitter, once the hip is out of the way, right hand slaps (feel right shoulder slap). The flat left wrist and bent right wrist are ALWAYS MAINTAINED AND THEN THE SWINGER SWIVELS THROUGH AND THE HITTER HAS A VERY SMALL SWIVEL.
To the Range, young man!
ICT!
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Air, the Swinger traces with Extensor Action along the Baseline of the Plane (I need to check this to see if it is the Target Line), but the Hitter covers the club face path (look this up it is really different).
The Swinger pulls the # 3 PP to the Inside quadrant of the ball or aiming Point whereas the Hitter forms the wedges at Impact Fix and drives the Right Shoulder at the ball, secondarily driving the Right Forearm and PP # 3.
For me, the Swinger pulls a left-handed karate chop at the ball and the Hitter, once the hip is out of the way, right hand slaps (feel right shoulder slap). The flat left wrist and bent right wrist are ALWAYS MAINTAINED AND THEN THE SWINGER SWIVELS THROUGH AND THE HITTER HAS A VERY SMALL SWIVEL.
To the Range, young man!
ICT!
I'm just trying to do what Yoda said I should do, so there is very little hitting on my part. But when trying to perform a punch shot, I guess it's hitting with angled hinging..
I'm just trying to do what Yoda said I should do, so there is very little hitting on my part. But when trying to perform a punch shot, I guess it's hitting with angled hinging..
Air, I am digesting this stuff and applying it daily! I am not expert in any sense. When I can shoot 9 holes regularly in the mid 30's, I will feel I have arrived.
I feel like Yoda gave me as much as I could recognize and then some, which was about 30% of the entire puzzle. He showed me a lot but I really did not understand it because what I did understand was overwhelming and I am a physical learner-I have to do a skill to know it!
So, for example, Lynn showed me a correct grip and a stationary head, putting and putting my chips, a correct flail and a set-up. 4 of my last 6 (9 holes) rounds, where I wasn't fighting Lyme disease meds, have been 42 or less down to 37. I could spend 3 weeks with Lynn but I would have o practice for 6 months to really incorporate his teachings. Anyway...
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I'm not sure what being in synch means. Does this allow for a freewheeling arm swing or have I (again) misunderstood something here? Are you talking about rhythm generally speaking or according to the TGM definition? But the main point is not to accelerate the hand speed it seems..?
Rythm was in TGM terms, i.e. "synchronised", or maybe more accurate "correctly sequenced", so no specific acceleration of the hand independent of the body for a swinger (but of course the whole body-arm-hands bundle do accelerate from Top to impact).
In Swinging, the arms are pulled from the left shoulder (#4 pp) that turn via pivot action, that the natural choregraphy of body parts for a swinger.
Usual caveat: that's based on my understanding of the book and of the informations here, I haven't seen an AI.
Rythm was in TGM terms, i.e. "synchronised", or maybe more accurate "correctly sequenced", so no specific acceleration of the hand independent of the body for a swinger (but of course the whole body-arm-hands bundle do accelerate from Top to impact).
In Swinging, the arms are pulled from the left shoulder (#4 pp) that turn via pivot action, that the natural choregraphy of body parts for a swinger.
Usual caveat: that's based on my understanding of the book and of the informations here, I haven't seen an AI.
We all know that life gives us certain choices and so I chose to concentrate on the correct grip and Stationary head. After I did that, a lot of my mistakes became obvious as did the book's solutions. Etzwane is right of course, but I could not connect to his insight until my head was still and my grip was correct.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Rythm was in TGM terms, i.e. "synchronised", or maybe more accurate "correctly sequenced", so no specific acceleration of the hand independent of the body for a swinger (but of course the whole body-arm-hands bundle do accelerate from Top to impact).
In Swinging, the arms are pulled from the left shoulder (#4 pp) that turn via pivot action, that the natural choregraphy of body parts for a swinger.
Usual caveat: that's based on my understanding of the book and of the informations here, I haven't seen an AI.
Thanks to both you and ICT. This has been an informative day.
Axis Tilt And The On Plane Right Shoulder
femoore wrote:
Philly, or whomever,
What drill, or procedure would you sugggest for players with the off plane right shoulder problem mentioned above. Is this the same as "roundhousing?"
Thanks,
femoore
phillygolf wrote:
Femoore,
As Homer states in 5-0, "That-failure to clear the right hip (roundhousing) can initiate almost every alignment disruption, including shanking"
So - Homer is saying, we need to establish a lag relationship to the plane line. In order to do so, we must clear the right hip - meaning, move it enough so the hands have a path to the planeline. Now, since we have already established the right shoulder must move onplane (and that the hands will generally follow the path established by the shoulders) - or at least back and down, then it would stand to reason the hips must clear enough to allow the right shoulder to become onplane. No, it doesnt stand to reason. THE HIPS MUST CLEAR ENOUGH TO GET THE RIGHT SHOULDER ONPLANE!!!
So - to me, roundhousing means the shoulder or the hands must move around the hips to move in a line towards the planeline, and this results in a geometrical disaster.
The fix could be two fold:
1. Properly train the pivot. At transition, make a slight bump of the hips which imparts an axis tilt (the shoulders move back and down away from the target somewhat) - that axis tilt allows the shoulder to become onplane, and then naturally - continue the pivot motion.
2. As quickly as possible but under the guidance of how properly the pivot is executing, that same relationship must be established with the hands. So, the command of delivering the lag must include a clearing of the right hip...eventually, as the player works on both of these, hopefully the transition to hands controlled pivot will be easier (but may require periodic trips back to the pivot).
Thats my story and I am sticking to it.
Wow, what a post! Great work, Patrick!
One nitpick: Remember, the Right Shoulder Turn of 10-13-A/C was already OnPlane at the Top. Therefore, it needs the Axis Tilt not to move itthere, but to keep it there during the Start Down, Downstroke, Release,Impact and the Follow-Through.
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