Well now I don't feel so bad about being under plane with shoulders closed with not much of a divot.
Is SS an Elbow Plane guy? Is the Plane determined by the # 3 PP location as it travels? Would that then make hip an almost TSP ?
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But when I hold a pencil up to where Luke drew the plane line in this picture below I see the dots on the far side, post impact, emerging above the plane line but seemingly way closer to the plane line. If you know what I mean. Anyways Im thinking it could be perspective, illusionary. What do you think?
I see the same as you. He seems to be on the plane that Mr Skywalker drew after impact and inside before. I can't understand how this is possible withoug some plane bending going on.
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I just look at impact. Nicklaus came down the TSP but at the very end made a shift to an elbow plane impact.
But remember, guys, the Elbow Plane is not an absolute. Some Angles are steeper than others, especially through Impact (versus Address).
These steeper-than-normal Elbow Planes can approach the TSP Angle and, in fact, remain on it. In which case, there has been Zero Shift from the Top. One example is Brian Gay.
But remember, guys, the Elbow Plane is not an absolute. Some Angles are steeper than others, especially through Impact (versus Address).
These steeper-than-normal Elbow Planes can approach the TSP Angle and, in fact, remain on it. In which case, there has been Zero Shift from the Top. One example is Brian Gay.
Thanks for this Yoda Ive been wondering about that one. The later editions definition of Elbow Plane got me mixed up.
How bout the TSP is it a range of angles too?
Would I be correct in thinking that though a Rotated Shoulder turn "can locate a TSP angle" its unlikely to be able to locate a TSP angle that is also an Elbow Plane angle? Is this one of the reasons for your preference for "Flat back", Standard Shoulder Turn?
I know this is slightly off topic but ..........since we're talking all around this lingering question of mine.
Thanks so much GMBTempe, Yoda, OB, the Academy! Angle at Impact! How simple, elegant, bio-mechanically logical and congruent. Awesome and satisfying like Dean Koontz or Tom Clancy or the 12 step program!
I have to break out the Brian Gay Premium videos I have!
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Another video from the same spot. Kuchar was arguably the best ball striker on tour last - impact is about as square/square as it gets. The back swing is unusual but the downswing is great.
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