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Old 03-29-2011, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ColtsFan View Post
Kev,

When you keep pressure on the left foot are you less likely to get that feeling (or reality) that you are getting ahead of the ball at impact? Im all for "covering" the ball, but when I did VJ's pivot, or McHattons youtube "torque drill", or even Clements "hogan move" I always got ahead of the ball at impact.

When I do Lynn's DS waggle from the AG vid,,(stretch w/ extensor rightward as lower body is stretching toward the target) I dont get ahead of the ball, my head stays back and all is good.

Im prolly just "over cooking" VJ's move or something, but Im sure it could be a pretty dynamic move once mastered...
I didn't do a very good job of answering your question ColtsFan. I see your point...

That is where Homer's ideas were so incredibly brilliant, it's different for everybody. We want everybody to achieve the same mechanics, but have to use their own "feels" to achieve them.

My problem has always been the opposite of yours. I am trying to "feel" like I get ahead of the ball to cover it. My issue has always been going the other way, backing up. That's why I have to work so hard at trying to keep my chest over the ball, and why I enjoy the teaching of guys like VJ Trolio and S&T so much. When I "feel" a weight shift on the back stroke, I'm not into my right leg, I'm over it. Death! The "feels" of staying left help me achieve a motion closer to my model which is the video of YODA I posted...

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Old 03-30-2011, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
Hi CF, Kev, sportsfans.

I have been cycling around all these images, also. A couple of times I did VJ's move on purpose and got a sold 230 yard carry. But I could not replicate it. since that time, I have realized the Flail's importance and the power of arms in Zone 2, and the needed connectedness of the chains.

I played last Sunday morning with one thought. I made myself swing around a stationary head. It was 35 degrees and blustery with a sunny sky. We were playing two man better ball so I was taking some chances I would not normally take and shot 9 pars but 3 doubles and one trip bogie =91

Our team core was 73. My bulls eye putter was so sweet. Thanks JerryG!

The greens were like ice, so to speak! LOL Oh wait, freezing is 32 degr. F.
IC, build on those 9 pars dude...totally agree about the arms for speed. Broke out my Mike Bender video last night and the free arm swing from the top without turning the shoulders or hips first is huge..playing off the elbow plane especially.

gutsy, gutsy effort playing out there in 32 degress bro
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Old 03-30-2011, 02:31 PM
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Interesting how feels can affect mechanics. I have been trying to keep my weight left while the club swings back. It puts the chest over the ball perfectly. When I feel the weight go back, it has moved me too far off the ball. Now it makes sense, a tripods top does not move. It also preserves one's alignments perfectly thru impact. Nice round, we are just starting to see grass here in Minnesota.
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:50 AM
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Interesting how feels can affect mechanics. I have been trying to keep my weight left while the club swings back. It puts the chest over the ball perfectly. When I feel the weight go back, it has moved me too far off the ball. Now it makes sense, a tripods top does not move. It also preserves one's alignments perfectly thru impact. Nice round, we are just starting to see grass here in Minnesota.
Boy, talk about feel isn't real...

I played a little in Iowa last week. Terrible case of what I thought was driver yips. Felt hopeless. Again, it wasn't the yips, it was alignments. All my good work with maintaining a flat left wrist, and I wasn't maintaining it with the driver. I was flipping! I couldn't feel it, and my camera isn't good enough when inside to see it.

My friend Jerry saw it and fixed me. Jerry learns everything right here and from books YODA recommended him. My nomination for Minnesota Teacher Of The Year, Jerry Gruepner. His high school team is very lucky to have him as their swing coach.

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Old 04-01-2011, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
Hi CF, Kev, sportsfans.

I have been cycling around all these images, also. A couple of times I did VJ's move on purpose and got a sold 230 yard carry. But I could not replicate it. since that time, I have realized the Flail's importance and the power of arms in Zone 2, and the needed connectedness of the chains.

I played last Sunday morning with one thought. I made myself swing around a stationary head. It was 35 degrees and blustery with a sunny sky. We were playing two man better ball so I was taking some chances I would not normally take and shot 9 pars but 3 doubles and one trip bogie =91

Our team core was 73. My bulls eye putter was so sweet. Thanks JerryG!

The greens were like ice, so to speak! LOL Oh wait, freezing is 32 degr. F.
Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
Boy, talk about feel isn't real...

I played a little in Iowa last week. Terrible case of what I thought was driver yips. Felt hopeless. Again, it wasn't the yips, it was alignments. All my good work with maintaining a flat left wrist, and I wasn't maintaining it with the driver. I was flipping! I couldn't feel it, and my camera isn't good enough when inside to see it.

My friend Jerry saw it and fixed me. Jerry learns everything right here and from books YODA recommended him. My nomination for Minnesota Teacher Of The Year, Jerry Gruepner. His high school team is very lucky to have him as their swing coach.

Kevin
I find it easier to flip w/ the driver. Hitting it fat or thin, the usual result of throw away or flip can be disguised w/ a driver since it's up in the air.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:19 PM
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I agree!
Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
Boy, talk about feel isn't real...

I played a little in Iowa last week. Terrible case of what I thought was driver yips. Felt hopeless. Again, it wasn't the yips, it was alignments. All my good work with maintaining a flat left wrist, and I wasn't maintaining it with the driver. I was flipping! I couldn't feel it, and my camera isn't good enough when inside to see it.

My friend Jerry saw it and fixed me. Jerry learns everything right here and from books YODA recommended him. My nomination for Minnesota Teacher Of The Year, Jerry Gruepner. His high school team is very lucky to have him as their swing coach.

Kevin
I'm sorry I missed this earlier but I nominate Jerry for the coveted "Pink Lemonade and Steak Sandwich" award to be presented at the end of June 2011 at any place he indicates in MN or Wisconsin.

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Old 04-05-2011, 11:25 PM
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I'm sorry I missed this earlier but I nominate Jerry for the coveted "Pink Lemonade and Steak Sandwich" award to be presented at the end of June 2011 at any place he indicates in MN or Wisconsin.

ICT

Thanks City, but by then I will have lost any right to the privilege due to one of my usual mess-ups.
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