"sweet spot" physics- where are you? - Page 3 - LynnBlakeGolf Forums

"sweet spot" physics- where are you?

The Lab

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 12-27-2011, 06:35 PM
HungryBear HungryBear is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 759
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Can you point to golfers that don't unbend the right wrist?
Well- not off-hand, but, I paraphrase- " Throw or drive the right forearm, not just the clubhead, into impact with the selected degree of right wrist bend.." and then "Drag that wet mop" and also Impact fix.
I see so many video's where the elbow-stalls and A faux #3 can be easy to hold because the unbending right wrist is almost automatic and can even chase a NO LAG forward bent shaft and feel like LAG is still there.

Just the way I see it but I am still in the TGM envelope- I think??

hb
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 12-30-2011, 04:45 PM
MizunoJoe MizunoJoe is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 719
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Can you point to golfers that don't unbend the right wrist?


The right wrist can't unbend if you roll an arched left wrist through impact.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 12-30-2011, 09:37 PM
HungryBear HungryBear is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 759
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Can you point to golfers that don't unbend the right wrist?
In my case I can point to the "lazy" factor.
Everything, once put in motion should continue in motion. I have to remind myself that the shoulders must continue, with effort, and the elbow and the forearm, into and beyond impact.

This is "way off" the sweet spot topic but, and this is how I think about it. There ar a lot of synchronized planes involved. The club shaft plane ( the one everyone talks about) which "changes", the shoulder(s) plane, The hands plane (which I place on the shoulder plane). AND THEY ALL MUST BE IN SYNC , The left wrist only cocks and uncocks, that is the only thing happening at the "GRIP-hand wrist" part of the assembly -until follow through. This is a very BIG topic well beyond present topic other than how it effects COM "manipulation".

HB

Last edited by HungryBear : 12-31-2011 at 10:28 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 01-04-2012, 05:00 PM
O.B.Left O.B.Left is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,433
Not to get off track and this may seem needlessly precise or small but... There's something that isn't talked about often which is Id say critical to a powerful , free flowing flail with correct on plane , Hand Motion. Namely: The re forming of the Bent Left , Flat Right Hand Condition post Finish Swivel.

Its not a Right Hand Release, capital R, a source of power but it does promote a full, free flowing and Aligned flail and in that way allows for full power. Its as if the flail needs some room or a place to go post impact, like a sprinter running another 30 yards past the tape.

Fix; Impact Hands (Flat left , Bent Right)

Adjusted Address: (B Left, F Right)

Top: Impact Hands

Impact: Same

Follow Through ; Same

Finish Swivel ; Same often, ideally .

Post Release Swivel ; Not the same, ( Bent Left , Flat Right.)

Finish: Impact Hands

The condition of the left hand post Finish Swivel is Cocked, Turned to Plane and Bent. Hogan did it, Moe did it, Bobby Jones did it........Lynn does it!

Sure you can do otherwise; Angled Hinge a three quarter shot for instance with a Bent Right Hand at your cut off Finish but for the normal shot , so to speak, the flail is full , free wheeling , on plane and the Wrists are tension free. Firm grip , free Wrists with a Bent Left Hand past Finish Swivel.... if only momentarily.

Not very many flat left hands post finish swivel out there on the tour.

That said the cure for Throwaway is still the Rolling of the Flat Left Wrist through the ball. Absolutely. As opposed to holding on to a bent right hand. If you Roll the Flat Left you will reduce the throwaway pressures placed upon the Bent Right. Steering is the enemy of the Flat Left Wrist.

Here's a rare discussion on this subject.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread6100.html

Last edited by O.B.Left : 01-04-2012 at 07:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 01-04-2012, 07:44 PM
golfguru golfguru is offline
LBG Pro Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Perth, W.Australia
Posts: 248
Jason Day gets close.

What is cool is learning to keep it Flat all the way to the Finish as a drill and then taking the Flying Wedge back over your head and back to impact fix location. Its not necessarily what all players can or will do, but it shows it can be done with a correct Finish Swivel and re-cocking of the left wrist.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 01-04-2012, 08:23 PM
HungryBear HungryBear is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 759
Originally Posted by golfguru View Post
Jason Day gets close.

What is cool is learning to keep it Flat all the way to the Finish as a drill and then taking the Flying Wedge back over your head and back to impact fix location. Its not necessarily what all players can or will do, but it shows it can be done with a correct Finish Swivel and re-cocking of the left wrist.
Ben Doyle does that on his "how to build a GOLF swing" video. Hes says somthing like "Smith and Westfield" but thats not the correct words. What does Ben Doyle say?

HB
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 01-04-2012, 08:32 PM
O.B.Left O.B.Left is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,433
I overlooked the somewhat contentious nature of my post. My apologies HB that probably should have been a new thread. Don't want to take you off course.

If the moderators want to rectify this by starting a new thread thats fine by me.

ob


PS Lynn does the from Finish to Address move thing too when describing the Wedges.

Last edited by O.B.Left : 01-05-2012 at 01:25 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 01-05-2012, 09:41 AM
KevCarter's Avatar
KevCarter KevCarter is offline
Lynn Blake Certified Associate
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,955
Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Not to get off track and this may seem needlessly precise or small but... There's something that isn't talked about often which is Id say critical to a powerful , free flowing flail with correct on plane , Hand Motion. Namely: The re forming of the Bent Left , Flat Right Hand Condition post Finish Swivel.

Its not a Right Hand Release, capital R, a source of power but it does promote a full, free flowing and Aligned flail and in that way allows for full power. Its as if the flail needs some room or a place to go post impact, like a sprinter running another 30 yards past the tape.

Fix; Impact Hands (Flat left , Bent Right)

Adjusted Address: (B Left, F Right)

Top: Impact Hands

Impact: Same

Follow Through ; Same

Finish Swivel ; Same often, ideally .

Post Release Swivel ; Not the same, ( Bent Left , Flat Right.)

Finish: Impact Hands

The condition of the left hand post Finish Swivel is Cocked, Turned to Plane and Bent. Hogan did it, Moe did it, Bobby Jones did it........Lynn does it!

Sure you can do otherwise; Angled Hinge a three quarter shot for instance with a Bent Right Hand at your cut off Finish but for the normal shot , so to speak, the flail is full , free wheeling , on plane and the Wrists are tension free. Firm grip , free Wrists with a Bent Left Hand past Finish Swivel.... if only momentarily.

Not very many flat left hands post finish swivel out there on the tour.

That said the cure for Throwaway is still the Rolling of the Flat Left Wrist through the ball. Absolutely. As opposed to holding on to a bent right hand. If you Roll the Flat Left you will reduce the throwaway pressures placed upon the Bent Right. Steering is the enemy of the Flat Left Wrist.

Here's a rare discussion on this subject.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread6100.html
Wonderful, extremely important and clarifying post Mr. O.B. with another important link from YODA.

Kevin
__________________

I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.

ALIGNMENT G.O.L.F.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 01-05-2012, 11:49 PM
Yoda's Avatar
Yoda Yoda is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 10,681
Somewhere In Time
Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Not to get off track and this may seem needlessly precise or small but... There's something that isn't talked about often which is Id say critical to a powerful , free flowing flail with correct on plane , Hand Motion. Namely: The re forming of the Bent Left , Flat Right Hand Condition post Finish Swivel.

Its not a Right Hand Release, capital R, a source of power but it does promote a full, free flowing and Aligned flail and in that way allows for full power. Its as if the flail needs some room or a place to go post impact, like a sprinter running another 30 yards past the tape.

Fix; Impact Hands (Flat left , Bent Right)

Adjusted Address: (B Left, F Right)

Top: Impact Hands

Impact: Same

Follow Through ; Same

Finish Swivel ; Same often, ideally .

Post Release Swivel ; Not the same, ( Bent Left , Flat Right.)

Finish: Impact Hands

The condition of the left hand post Finish Swivel is Cocked, Turned to Plane and Bent. Hogan did it, Moe did it, Bobby Jones did it........Lynn does it!

Sure you can do otherwise; Angled Hinge a three quarter shot for instance with a Bent Right Hand at your cut off Finish but for the normal shot , so to speak, the flail is full , free wheeling , on plane and the Wrists are tension free. Firm grip , free Wrists with a Bent Left Hand past Finish Swivel.... if only momentarily.

Not very many flat left hands post finish swivel out there on the tour.

That said the cure for Throwaway is still the Rolling of the Flat Left Wrist through the ball. Absolutely. As opposed to holding on to a bent right hand. If you Roll the Flat Left you will reduce the throwaway pressures placed upon the Bent Right. Steering is the enemy of the Flat Left Wrist.

Here's a rare discussion on this subject.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread6100.html
Great stuff, O.B. Thanks.

Re my post URL above, newbies should note that my archived posts from Jan-March 2004 were brought on with a 1970 date. Plus, all my post titles were lost, Maybe some day we'll be able unscramble all that, but for now, that's the way it is.

__________________
Yoda
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 01-07-2012, 05:31 PM
HungryBear HungryBear is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 759
Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
I overlooked the somewhat contentious nature of my post. My apologies HB that probably should have been a new thread. Don't want to take you off course.

If the moderators want to rectify this by starting a new thread thats fine by me.

ob


PS Lynn does the from Finish to Address move thing too when describing the Wedges.
No problemo- I have said what is to be said about the "sweet spot"- and what i said was what it does or doesn't do.

I figured out what Ben was saying. "Fastest Gun in the West" He has a drill.

HB
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:56 AM.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.