Nice Bobby Jones stuff . ..

[Uppndownn]

Perhaps where Mr. Bucket is trying to lead.......is that a little over the top produces a powerful shot a la Snead ........and moreso Mr. Jones. More power, possilby, but at what cost, especially to us mortals?

UPP in really freezing Ohio

[12 piece bucket]

A/ Not understanding the work of the (whole) right arm.

B/ I dont!

What does that mean TastyFreeze?

[12 piece bucket]

Perhaps where Mr. Bucket is trying to lead.......is that a little over the top produces a powerful shot a la Snead ........and moreso Mr. Jones. More power, possilby, but at what cost, especially to us mortals?

UPP in really freezing Ohio

That could be what I'm saying. . . but define "over the top"?

[Uppndownn]

Bucks,

Whoa there, pardner. You seemed to know what it was in your own post #10 on this thread. Next thing you will be wanting to define observation vs. perception of reality and stuff like that. Deep. Too Deep.

I still want to know what you meant by alignments when you started this thread. Please refrain from answering questions with more questions.

Thanks,

UPP in still freezing Ohio

[12 piece bucket]

Bucks,

Whoa there, pardner. You seemed to know what it was in your own post #10 on this thread. Next thing you will be wanting to define observation vs. perception of reality and stuff like that. Deep. Too Deep.

I still want to know what you meant by alignments when you started this thread. Please refrain from answering questions with more questions.

Thanks,

UPP in still freezing Ohio

Ok there's no debating me being marginally retarded . . . but I went back and read #10 I asked you "why do people come over it?"

I think you were the one that said he came over it. I was just asking what that means.

[gmoney_69]

I think its necessary to define over the top in relation to what plane line. In Bobby Jones case I don't think over the top is exactly accurate. His takeaway/backstroke is way inside, more like a 10-5-E plane line. To come down on that plane he would have to continue with the rotated plane line and swing to right field, with his downstroke pivot motion being parallel to that line. Instead, he allows his left arm to shift out so he could come down on plane in relation to his setup.

Now, I think the problem hackers have with their 'over the top' move is that it is truly over the top. They start down and get above the original plane but try to make their motion in relation to their original plane therefore bending their delivery line. How about if after they made this move they allowed the plane line to shift to the left and made their delivery along this plane line, complete with pivot parallel to that line.

[12 piece bucket]

I think its necessary to define over the top in relation to what plane line. In Bobby Jones case I don't think over the top is exactly accurate. His takeaway/backstroke is way inside, more like a 10-5-E plane line. To come down on that plane he would have to continue with the rotated plane line and swing to right field, with his downstroke pivot motion being parallel to that line. Instead, he allows his left arm to shift out so he could come down on plane in relation to his setup.

Now, I think the problem hackers have with their 'over the top' move is that it is truly over the top. They start down and get above the original plane but try to make their motion in relation to their original plane therefore bending their delivery line. How about if after they made this move they allowed the plane line to shift to the left and made their delivery along this plane line, complete with pivot parallel to that line.

Yes sir . . . he's basically shifting his hands out and using the original 10-5-A (right?) plane line.

I like the analysis in the 2nd paragraph . . . can you think of a pro that maybe does that? Craig Perry? Leeky?