
07-31-2009, 01:28 AM
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Hey Burner, hope is all well.
It's newtons' law conservation of momentum. Pure physics.
Golf, tennis, throwing a ball you create ground force which creates
conservation of momentum.
Geometry (homer) you won't learn how to do this through geometry, you need to be taught human motion physic how to create ground forces, conservation of momentum, loading and firing of the muscles.
Geometry can't teach this.
Golf swing is 90% physics and 10% geometry, you poor guys put 90% into 10% of what creates a golf swing and this is why you all struggle with golf.
Where as you train your body how to create physics then you can apply geometry and have success.
Burner how can you grip the ground when you have never been taught how to? Geometry won't teach you how to.
Oneday I hope you meet someone show you physics and enjoy the feeling of gripping the ground just like hogan did.
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07-31-2009, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bioengine
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It's newtons' law conservation of momentum. Pure physics.
Golf, tennis, throwing a ball you create ground force which creates
conservation of momentum.
Geometry (homer) you won't learn how to do this through geometry, you need to be taught human motion physic how to create ground forces, conservation of momentum, loading and firing of the muscles.
Geometry can't teach this.
Golf swing is 90% physics and 10% geometry, you poor guys put 90% into 10% of what creates a golf swing and this is why you all struggle with golf.
Where as you train your body how to create physics then you can apply geometry and have success.
Burner how can you grip the ground when you have never been taught how to? Geometry won't teach you how to.
Oneday I hope you meet someone show you physics and enjoy the feeling of gripping the ground just like hogan did.
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Geometry: The Clubhead Path and Clubface motion 3" before to 3" after the Ball is purely Geometry. Alignment Golf.
- Physics: I want to hit the ball with the Sweetspot.
- Geometry: I want the Clubhead to be Traveling a Path, Down, Out and Forward. I want the Clubface to be Closing and Hooding. (The Hooding Part is slight).
- Physics: This results in a perfect "Sustained - Line of Compression".
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07-31-2009, 10:19 AM
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I would like to know how to grip the ground like Hogan did. Please proceed. Thanks.
UPP in Ohio
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07-31-2009, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Uppndownn
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I would like to know how to grip the ground like Hogan did. Please proceed. Thanks.
UPP in Ohio
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Given a steady head, Im thinking the key for me anyways is to make all lower body motions, Hip Motions only. No knee action or knee drive etc. The feet go up and down and the Hips turn and slide.
Try this: Lift your left heal off the ground (giving you a nice left knee bend) then turn your right hip back. If the left knee needs to come over some let it be pulled over by the right hip, no independent knee stuff. This will get you to Top hugging the ground. This isnt an X factor thing, far from it. Its just taking out all unnecessary motions which leaves you quite planted.f
I learned this from a guy who teaches Motion, Aligned Geometrically, learned Mechanically and played by Feel............Lynn Blake. If you ever work with him you will learn Motion, golfs physics. But its useless mainly unless its aligned geometrically.
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07-31-2009, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GPStyles
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Is that you Scott?
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Yup, its Scott.
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07-31-2009, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bioengine
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Hey Burner, hope is all well.
It's newtons' law conservation of momentum. Pure physics.
Golf, tennis, throwing a ball you create ground force which creates
conservation of momentum.
Geometry (homer) you won't learn how to do this through geometry, you need to be taught human motion physic how to create ground forces, conservation of momentum, loading and firing of the muscles.
Geometry can't teach this.
Golf swing is 90% physics and 10% geometry, you poor guys put 90% into 10% of what creates a golf swing and this is why you all struggle with golf.
Where as you train your body how to create physics then you can apply geometry and have success.
Burner how can you grip the ground when you have never been taught how to? Geometry won't teach you how to.
Oneday I hope you meet someone show you physics and enjoy the feeling of gripping the ground just like hogan did.
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I'm doing OK mate. Hope all is well with you also.
Thanks for the response. 
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08-01-2009, 09:07 AM
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Uppndown,
Needs to be trained to be able to do, gripping the ground isn't something you can pyhsically apply.
You need movement pattern training to be learn how to apply ground forces.
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08-01-2009, 09:08 AM
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The Bold or the Beautiful
Originally Posted by bioengine
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Golf swing is 90% physics and 10% geometry, you poor guys put 90% into 10% of what creates a golf swing and this is why you all struggle with golf.
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That is quite a bold statement. I am sure you have proof of this. 90% Physics? not 91% or 89%. Where did these scientific figures come from or is this just your opinion?
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08-01-2009, 09:11 AM
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Daryl,
No those type of physics, human motion physics.
The club moves around the axis of the spine.
If you learn to apply the right movement patterns or Kinetic Link. The clube will move around the axis of the spine.
The only geometry needed is squaring the face up at impact and knowing how to align your body square to the target.
Golf is 90% physics ( Movement patterns)
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08-01-2009, 09:19 AM
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Even Homer says Golf is 90% physics.
Do you seriously believe Geometry drives the swing?
Why is it that the world's scoring average has gone out 1 shot, should this improve.
We are all barking up the your tree.
What creates geometry, how do we create these angles etc?
Easy physics and movement patterns. How can you apply geometry when people can't even move their body effective or create the right movement patterns.
Golf's scoring average would go down if people learnt physics as well as geometry
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