elbow , turned shoulder, pp#3 and Brian Gay

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I am just trying to figure out what is actually happening with Brian. I understand Brian sets up on the elbow forearm plane at address. Does he then try to swing on the elbow plane?

Startup along the Shaft Plane which for Brian is the Elbow Plane.

Is he trying to take pp#3 and the sweet spot down the elbow plane to impact? OR Does he try and shift to the turned shoulder and then back to the elbow going back down?

The latter but understand that the plane shift from the Elbow to the TSP is minimal for Brian Gay. In addition by establishing the Elbow Plane and the RFFW at Address he has already made the necessary adjustments to his Machine that Impact will require which will greatly increase his chances of achieving correct Impact Alignments. This is something most pros have to achieve dynamically during the shot having started elsewhere at Address. Adjustments such as waist bend, kneed bend, head position, left shoulder to ball radius measuring etc etc.

Seems confusing because in the premium video with Brian, Yoda describes the shoulder turning back to "the plane" as he shows dowels going up from the forearm.

Normally Yoda demonstrates Standard Shoulder Turn. A Flat Turn back to the TSP with a dowel laid virtually parallel to the ground and above the right shoulder when viewed from DTL. Followed by an On Plane move of the Right Shoulder down the TSP and along a dowel representing the TSP. So Flat back and On Plane going down in Startdown. Weird but wonderful. Two different planes that the shoulder turn on. (As distinct from the Inclined Plane)

Is Yoda demonstrating turning the shoulders to the shoulder plane while keeping the hands and pp#3 on the elbow plane? Just trying to make sure. Thanks.

No Right Shoulder to the TSP, pp#3 shifts from Elbow to TSP at Top. The Pivot and the Hands travel different paths. The Pivot the Right Shoulder turns BACK and the pp#3 the frozen Right Hand is lifted UP by the bending Right Elbow. This is the BACK and UP associated with a three dimensional backstroke. Two directions and something Yoda normally demonstrates by rubbing his stomach and patting his head at the same time. "We can do this" says he.

When using the TSP the Right Shoulder and the pp#3 , though they travelled different paths to get there, will arrive at Top on the same plane angle, the TSP. Hands to Pivot. As opposed to Pivot to Hands which would see the Pivot pull the Hands along the in direction it is traveling and therefor always under plane Startup.

The pp#3 if set on a TSP Angle at Top (a TSP angle preselected by the golfer and in accordance with the type of Shoulder Turn employed, flat back having a lower angle that will more closely approach the Elbow Plane Angle, Shaft Plane and therefore requiring a smaller shift back to the Elbow Plane prior to Impact) will allow the golfer to take his Right Shoulder down the TSP in Startdown with the Hands, the pp#3, the Sweet Spot following directly down this same plane as opposed to out over the plane like they would if they were set on a higher plane angle than a TSP prior to Startdown. This is the primary geometric benefit of using the TSP.

This is what Yoda normally demonstrates anyways and so much easier to demonstrate than it is to write about. Sorry if this is confusing. In a strange way writing about it does promote some clarity. I think, maybe.