Active pivot versus reactive pivot
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05-21-2010, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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He's Right Arm Swinging. The Hinge Pin is his Right Elbow.
He Cocks his Right Wrist. It looks like a Snap Release. Technically, it's not a Snap Release because his Right Wrist begins to Uncock during his Downstroke.
He has no need for a Left Arm except to Pull his Right Elbow as far Forward as possible. His Tilt and Left arm serve to get his Right Elbow to the Ball.
Note that if he were a Left Arm Swinger, he would be playing his Ball Forward of Low Point.
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So Bently J. Doyle is teaching right arm swinging now??? Wow.
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05-21-2010, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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So Bently J. Doyle is teaching right arm swinging now??? Wow.
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I said that the Swing you presented, with your Photo, is a Right Arm Swing (Procedure). I don't know if he does it all of the Time. But, in this Photo, let there be no doubt, he is Right Arm Swinging.
Let me say further, that Ben KNOWS TGM, and that he's aware of what he is doing. Nothing wrong with Right Arm Swinging.
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05-21-2010, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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I said that the Swing you presented, with your Photo, is a Right Arm Swing (Procedure). I don't know if he does it all of the Time. But I suspect that he uses a Right Arm Swing a Lot.
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What pattern did you get at the lesson? Maximum participation swinging? Is that still the M.O.?
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05-21-2010, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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TGM is complex and worse still obtuse. Being the first Authorized Instructor wasnt easy Id imagine. In the end lets throw him a mulligan and applaud his many many contributions. But in the mean time, this is a discussion that needs to happen. Many people new to TGM see that over roll and ask just these sorts of questions.
Ironic wasnt it that it was Mr Doyle who was standing behind Mr Blake in the smash hit Finish Swivel video? Lynn is not one to correct the errors of others......Lord knows he'd need a lot of time, specially around here with some of my doozers, but......is this an ironic bit of happen stance or a gentleman's polite submission to the contrary and for the record? We'll never know. Doesnt matter I guess.
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...sh-Swivel.html
12-3-0 pt 22 "DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP" emphasizes "ROLL" but it does not mean that "more is better". Its a geometry problem with a geometric answer.
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I did the pattern . . . unfortunately I ain't got no mulligans left to throw . . . used 'em all up. 
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05-21-2010, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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What pattern did you get at the lesson? Maximum participation swinging? Is that still the M.O.?
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Right Arm Swinging.
Maximum #3 Pressure and get that Right Elbow as far forward as possible. After a little, he said "Fade" and I would Fade; "Draw" and I would Draw; "5 Yard Draw", and I would 5 Yard Draw.
I was getting pretty good at it until I took it to the Golf Course that afternoon. I said "5 Yard Draw" and I would hit a Tree Trunk, "5 Yard Fade" and I would hit a Tree Branch.
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05-21-2010, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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Right Arm Swinging. 
Maximum #3 Pressure and get that Right Elbow as far forward as possible. After a little, he said "Fade" and I would Fade; "Draw" and I would Draw; "5 Yard Draw", and I would 5 Yard Draw.
I was getting pretty good at it until I took it to the Golf Course that afternoon. I said "5 Yard Draw" and I would hit a Tree Trunk, "5 Yard Fade" and I would hit a Tree Branch.
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That pattern skatters more vectors than the hair lipped "chef" skatters hashbrowns at the Waffle Casa . . .
I'll give him credit for keeping his right wrist bent . . . . and . . . not falling down. He's about 25% on 1-L 1-21.
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05-21-2010, 02:58 PM
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While we've got a break in the action.......For those of you following at home.
Bucket's last submission relates to:
1-L-21 "The relations of all Machine positions and motioins can be described by a geometric figure."
Did I say TGM was "obtuse" earlier? All I got on that one is that the geometric figures should always be two dimensional, that is they must always be able lie flat on the Inclined Plane. Three dimensions would "bend" the Plane Line!
Lets see how Daryl handles that "curve" ball? Now back to the action.............
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05-21-2010, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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While we've got a break in the action.......For those of you following at home.
Bucket's last submission relates to:
1-L-21 "The relations of all Machine positions and motioins can be described by a geometric figure."
Did I say TGM was "obtuse" earlier? All I got on that one is that the geometric figures should always be two dimensional, that is they must always be able lie flat on the Inclined Plane. Three dimensions would "bend" the Plane Line!
Lets see how Daryl handles that "curve" ball? Now back to the action.............
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I wasn't talkin' just about #21 . . . I was talking about ALL 21 items . . . . but I would agree . . . #21 is violated.
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05-21-2010, 03:22 PM
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Sorry I just had one of those hand rolled cigarets you left at my place. Man those things make me feel weird . Hey what's your favorite candy bar anyways?
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05-21-2010, 03:53 PM
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This thread was picked up from last year by Bartly in his Post #65, asking about Hip Action.
"Bartly" seems pretty satisfied with Buckets answer in Post #67. Then, Edz got Bucket drinking whiskey again with his Post #68 and O.B. Left yanked Bucket overboard. We moved a tad-bit away from the original question. But, the subject remained TGM related so I guess Bucket didn't stray too far. 
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