Ben Hogan...Up Close And Personal
 

Yes, Birdie, I saw Ben Hogan in action both on the Practice Tee and on the Course at The Masters in 1964, 1965 and 1966.

I also have a personal letter from him dated May 9, 1967, where he officially -- but politely :) -- turned down a 21-year old serviceman's request for private lessons!

It's really kind of cool to have a 'flush' letter from 'The Man' himself. I've retrieved that letter and put it up as Post #44 in the Young Yoda thread in the Lounge forum). http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...1677#post31677

Comparing Brian's Apples To Homer's Apples
 

I have added reference photos from The Golfing Machine to the thumbnails in Post #90 above. Compare Brian Gay's Impact Fix with Photo 9-2-2 #2 (particularly the Right Forearm-Clubshaft alignment).

<img src="http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=250&d=1157149749" width="400"/>

And also his Address with Photo 9-2-1 #2.

<img src="http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=249&d=1157149749" width="400"/>

As you can see, the alignments are identical.

The only difference is...

Homer Kelley's model was posed in the alignments you see. And Brian's are what he uses every day on the PGA TOUR.

Per 2-R...

"The pictures depict exactly what they are intended to depict and as near to "Zero Tolerance" as is humanly possible. And then only because they were carefully and expertly posed. Each picture is intended to present the ideal for its subject, whether or not anyone on earth has ever achieved it. They are a goal and not necessarily any individual or universal common practice."

And they work. Read Post #86 above...Brian Gay, T-6 on the PGA TOUR in Stroke Average (Actual).

Bottom line...

Homer Kelley got it right.

It took him forty years...but he got it right.

Don't try to reinvent the wheel.

Just do it.

Always thought Impact Fix included impact hips and shoulders. Learn something every day.

Hate to be the guy who comes out and says "Ya but...!

...

...but....

Brian Gay plays to a very high level of golf.....but he is only one testament to this setup Lynn....

Horse Led To Water
 

True, Birdie. But I require no other 'testaments.' I require only the alignments of The Golfing Machine. With all due respect, we'll stick with this.

Brian's 316
 

He may have averaged 316 at Tucson but don't they only measure two drives for those stats? Both holes may have been down wind.

Both Ways
 

My understanding is that each day two holes are used for the average drive statistic. The holes are chosen such that one is into the wind and one is downwind if at all possible. Also, if elevation change is involved one would be uphill and the other downhill. While it is inexact at best, they do try to average out the effects of terrain and weather.

First Poster Alert
 

No 'may' about Brian's 316-yard-average at the Chyrsler Classic of Tuscon, golfkru. It is a PGA TOUR / ShotLink fact. And as I stated at the beginning of this thread eight months ago, that average was for the 4th round. For the record, Brian's four-round average was 285.8 yards with 69.7 percent of the fairways hit.

Now, you have been here only four days. We have given you a wealth of information without charge, and in exchange, you have given us this rude first post. What is your point?

That Brian Gay is not one of the TOUR's long drivers?

No argument there.

Given his Putting and Scrambling skills, that would be like Warren Buffett getting stock market inside information.

:)

If you have a beef with the stat, take it up with the PGA TOUR or ShotLink or both.

Meanwhile, know that friends of LBG, no matter how diverse their view, are always welcome.

But the mean-spirited and contentious don't last long.

Trust me...I watched Brian on the driving range and on the course at the TPC at Avenel...he can spank a golf ball long and straight....end of story. Brian is making excellent progress...it's been great watching him incrementally move up the leader board each week this year.

DG

Long Enough
 

I've seen Brian hit it. He hits it long enough to do well on the tour. He is considerably longer than Corey Pavin, and Mr. Pavin won a tournament this year.

I would say that kind of an average length on the P.G.A.
Tour these days is a player that hits it in the 270 to 280 range. Some of these guys can probably zip it out there a little longer when they want to.

I think it would be fun to have these guys play a RETRO TOURNAMENT. Have them all play equipment from around 1970, including the ball. 250... was a pretty good drive back then, and 260 to 270 was LONG.