NO avoidance here....Eldrick IS NOT Hitting....you can't hit with extreme pitch elbow....

You can talk all this stuff about "release #3 hard"...the point in putting that picture up...forget about all the accumulators etc.....this MAY work for Eldrick....but it sure does look like a WHOLE LOT OF STUFF has to happen in order for the clubface to get on the ball IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME WITH A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SPACE....not saying it can't be done...but sure does look like there would be an easier way...

Critique .... #4 pressure point ABSENT...no accumulators have fired IMO at this point...hands on left thigh....shoulders extremely closed...right toe squashing bugs/butts...spine will be forced to tilt back as a result of the extreme pitch/overlap...Eldrick is certainly ooozing with talent and hits balls 8 hours a day....but does this make sense for "regular" types?

Whoever's mandating these pictures would have a hard time convincing ME to swing this way...but looks like Eldrick is all in....maybe he's learning this from some hairlipped Perkinz waitress....who knows...."we all switch chicks & instructors when we ring the bell."

If he's only about to start rolling PA3 at that point, yes it's almost impossible. But ain't he trying to release Before that, and will finally succeed or ACCELERATE at that position. So it's not as hard as it may seem. It's not as if he stopped at that position, he had momentum already before that.

Fine with me...operate your Machine as you see fit...not my bag though.

You can hit from Pitch perhaps, maybe but why would you want to? Your Right Elbow would have to move back behind the hands very quickly during Release to pull it off. If your intention is to Push , Thrust why Align your Right Elbow in front of the Hands in a Pull position so late in the swing? You've also loaded along the wrong line, Reverse #2 pp against the Top instead of #1PP (and maybe #3pp, Direct Drive) against the Aft.


That said there are these Hitters who get late (ish) with some #2 Angle even but have their Right Elbows positioned to Push or Thrust. Lynn does this I believe. Ive got some photos somewhere. Drag then Drive Hitting. To the casual observer it can look a lot like a swing but it isn't. You've got to look at the Elbow position.

It can be a very elegant Hitting procedure .......or in Arnie's case brutish. That guy was strong. And long.

We're not talking 12-1 any more here ... this isn't Drive Loading. But it is Hitting. If you have 12-1 at one end of the spectrum and 12-2 at the other ......there's a lot of middle ground. But its best to master 12-1 and 2 before moving on . Start off compensation free and pure. Luke did when he re built his swing. Id say it turned out pretty good too..... Didn't take that long either.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...s/image009.jpg

Is there a difference?

HB

I think so....do you see 'em? Frankly...I don't like either one all that much.

I see:
TW is a high speed frame or two ahead.
less hip slide, little more down right shoulder.

I love it- about as small as the pulley can be made. Not that that is the be-all, end-all

If I say they are both horizontal hinge with appropriate sequenced release will I have to duck?

HB

Darn, I really need to get that yellow book...:D...

No doubt particularly if you standing to the left....

So what would be the implications of having this small of a pulley THIS LATE? I don't know nothing about Trackman...but it sure does seem like there is a lot of "Down" Vertical Swing Plane or whatever them cats call it to make up...Plus the clubhead is NOT thrown out to the ball at this point....so it seems like you'd be "swinging out on it" more or more positive horizontal swing path or whatever...and how do you not have some big ole shaft lean and with a driver no less....and your shoulders are closed...so your right shoulder geometry ain't working OUT and FORWARD to the ball ...yet....so seems like the tendency would be to swing under and out and raise the handle/shaft up off the plane ...because of the vertical motion of the right shoulder?

you're the physics cat...you swing the weight on the string...don't the weight want to fly out? Why delay the weight slinging out that long? You love it...but for what reason? Cuz it looks purty? Or because it is functional? If the clubhead were more out to the ball at this point...what would you be giving up in terms of MPH? What would you potentially gain in terms of hitting the ball where you is looking?