I never thought of the fact that making a great post like that and getting no response can be frustrating. Just want to be sure you know we're paying attention. I had saved the text and pics for my own future reference.

Level, cocked, uncocked. Teachers don't let us know we need to monitor that. You and Homer Kelley do.

Thanks YODA! :salut:

Kevin

I was having my morning coffee and thinking about Brian Gays chipping method (with no left wrist cock) while looking at this photo from the sports section.

Nice wedges and a still level left wrist. Absolutely no flippy whippy, rubber wristed hand syndrome despite the fact it looks like a high soft floater.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/a...d=126564950 1

I honestly to believe he is monitoring his wedges, maintaining lag pressure, and using some right forearm magic. Steve sets up closer to Brian Gay than anyone I have seen. I would love to find out if Mr. Tiziani has some TGM influence. I have played with Mr. Tiziani's son Mario, and his alignments were very similar as I remember...

Kevin

Steve's Horizontal Hinge Action Pitch
 

And, with Horizontal Hinge Action (Clubface Closing Only / No Layback)! The giveaway is the toe of the Club pointing along the Line at the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position).

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Does he get more spin & better bite when the lay back is eliminated Yoda?

Cut Shot Dynamics
 

Actually, the reverse is true. Vertical Hinging (Layback Only) produces Cut Shots and the spin/bite characteristics you mention.

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You know I'm only one of the distant TGM/LBG disciples....but with all do respect, Master...it looks to me as if the leading is pointing 45* out to the right, which actually indicates angled hinging. Or is it just the photo that cheats the eye. I know if you're saying he's swinging his chips with horizontal, you're certainly right....but this pic...hmm

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/a...d=126564950 1

I went to the dome yesterday and with this chipping method in mind tried to figure out how far I go in that manner. A lot further than I thought, was the answer. The strikes were solid and consistent while maintaining a level left wrist throughout, no left wrist cock. Sort of like a super long putting stroke although I didnt use my putting grip.

Which makes me wonder why it works so well? What is the answer guys?

-one or two accumulators only?
-Id been introducing some un required left wrist cock that complicated things. An unnecessary application of a velocity power for such a short stroke?
-the full lever (left arm and club) having been assembled and maintained throughout the entire stroke is super simple for low point management and ensures full lever impact?
-the right arm is on plane?

That level left wrist is something I keep learning and re learning for all strokes, long and short. It alone can fix a lot of ills for me. ( Yoda did tell me my hands were starting to get a little low and I was reverting back into my old address posture, without the on plane right arm etc. )

What is the source of its magic?

The Closing Door
 

Thom,

There may be a camera angle issue for you. Let's look at the question (of Clubface alignment) another way:

Imagine that Steve raised the club just slightly so that the shaft is parallel to the ground. Then, would the toe of the club point straight up (leading edge vertical to the ground, i.e., the horizontal plane). Or, would it be at a slight angle, i.e., vertical to an angled plane? To my eye, the toe would point straight up, and that indicates Horizontal Hinging. You may see it differently.

At the very least, I think we can agree that the Face of the club would not point at the sky (which would indicate Vertical Hinging).

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YODA,

What do you think of my thoughts as far as Steve Stricker participating in some way in Mr. Kelley's work? Last night on his show, Michael Breed, who I know has a lot of TGM in his background, was talking about some of Steve's alignments. I got out my SmartStick to do some comparisons, and I'll be damned if those alignments didn't get me right on plane with the laser. Michael Breed did everything but say look, LOOK, LOOK!

Swinging is wonderful for a lot of folks, but the Magic Of The Right Forearm is going to be discovered by the masses, and it's going to be HUGE. I'm very happy I'm at LBG and already building on that foundation.

Thanks Lynn!

Kevin