Thanks JTillery and Kev ........ briefs and shaft softening is just a fact of life maybe as one gets a little older.

Seriously though , Im kinda wondering about D8 or 9. Does it have an effect? Are you guys pooping me here or being serious?

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Wait a minute JT, at the risk of moving LBG outa prime time , I didnt say "inch long/briefs". I said standard length plus one inch , briefs. There's a big difference both for the club fitter and the tailor.

I'm serious, but Tillery is kind of new. May be a spy! :) :) :)
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Kevin

Ya , I was just thinking the same thing, European PGA maybe? A sleeper cell from Scotland, England or Sweden maybe?

Hey JT what's your favorite football team? (If he say Man U or something instead of the Vikings etc its a dead give away, eh Kev, like an acid test sorta). Me I like the Roughriders, Canadian Football League. Hmmm maybe he's a damn Canadian? UH oh.

Who won the 1964 World Series?

Oops, I guess maybe we need to ask questions we know the answer to! :)

Kevin

Yoda, OB, Drew,

Thanks for your answers, really helpful stuff. I will check the Level Left Wrist. I always assumed that my left wrist was level at address because the right wrist looked level in a mirror. But actually the left wrist might have been cocked just a little.

I do have 1/2" longer shafts, 2 degrees upright lie and midsize grips, so I guess that should be OK (I am 6 ft. 4").

The reason behind my question on component variations was that I figured Plane Angle might need an adjustment. When I am addressing and impacting on the Elbow Plane (double plane shift) I need to bend over more from the waist to be able to get my right forearm on plane (waist bend about 45 degrees, as opposed to about 30 degrees when I am on the Turned Shoulder Plane). I feel that this lowers the center of gravity of my body and that I find it easier to retain the same degree of waist bend during the stroke. Also, this should flatten the Angle of Attack (although I am not exactly sure if that's a good thing). On the other hand, I find it more "natural" to make a Zero Plane Shift stroke on the Turned Shoulder Plane. That was my standard pattern even before I learned about TGM.

To be serious for a moment, Id say that once you extend a club an inch or more you start getting some issues. Once you've adjusted lie angle, you still have a heavier SW with a weaker shaft. Then your club can really get to looking like the photo Lynn put up of shaft deflection. Ya. Getting into the E range from D2 or 3 is going to have some of these implications.........this isn't really my cup of sweet tea/firefly though

LITTLE HELP CLUBFITTERS PLEASE....

Very valid points Pro. IMHO, the changes in shaft flex are exactly what you need to watch out for and be careful with.

Kevin

Waisted Days
 

O.B.

Is your driver, fairway woods and/or hybrids also longer than standard? A 45" driver, IMO, is really made for someone that needs a longer club, but the swingweight is usually in the D0 range and not balanced like the irons.

Par 71,

Forward spinal tilt varies from player to player depending upon physical attributes: arm length, height, length of torso, width of stance, etc. and according to tour averages is somewhere between 22 degrees (Jeff Sluman) and 45 degrees (Dans Forsman).

I can't imagine even using 45". I'm stuck at 44.5" at D-6 swingweight and don't ever want anything longer or lighter...

Kevin