Perhaps instructors do but no mention of legs in the index or section eight or in any of the zones. Lots of talk about knees and hips- which are legs just more precise. Hips move the pivot, Knees are anchors and platforms to keep the head staionary. I don't think Homer address the issue carts in the yellow book. How can you start the downswing by swinging your left leg toward the target- kinda Monty pythonish. Your hips can use the feet and knees- but you can't 'swing the leg.' Homer uses his labguage with precision- a machine.

Bennett and Plummer coach Dean Wilson, Will MacKenzie, Mike Weir, Aaron Baddeley among others. I know you are familiar with them. Andy and Mike are nice guys- got Homer from O'Grady. O'grady got TGM from Mr. Kelley. They just build different machines, respectfully.

I forget who said this. It was in a post I read awhile back. But I agree with this guy.:)

Homer Kelley said that if the Hips move the club on the back swing- it is a Pivot control Hands procedure. I think everyone can see that.

IMHO, Hula Hula allows for the hips to move first- gear train from the bottom up- and create a space for the Hands to attack the ball to Impact. The Delivery Paths are clear for the Hands to accomplish its task.

If you do not use Hula Hula, the INDEPENDENT movement of the hips from the shoulders (not merely a hip slide) and wait to use the left hip to rotate with the right arm through Impact – you are closer to Pivot control Hands then you think.

Oh, I found out the guy who said that. It was 6bMike.

In the Yellow Book, the word "Leg" is never used. The word "Legs" is used only twice as a Heading for 7-16 and 7-17.

I'm not against Bennet and Plummer. I look at it this way: it's the Elephant story. You know, the one in which creatures are blindfolded and asked to touch a part of the elephant and then describe the elephant. If you want to see the whole picture, you have to read the Yellow Book. Otherwise, the elephant is long and round like a tube and has rough skin. :laughing9

I've heard Lynn tell the elephant story several times. I don't see how it applies to Mike and Andy. They are from TGM. Homer moves the knees and feet- they are the components not the legs.

I refer to the hips moving the pivot on the DOWNSWING. I never talk about the back stroke because it is always the Right Forearm Takeaway.

Hula Hula is one of the most important concepts in TGM. It does start the pivot it does NOT moves the hands or arms or shoulders. I'm not going to get in ANOTHER argument about what is pivot control and what isn't. I agree with Yoda and Homer that the hands carry the club to the end or top and the pivot initiates the down stroke.

The only reason I replied to this thread is because legs are not a TGM component- it’s the releation of the hip and knees to the spine angle. Not swing the leg left to start the DS- how do you do that? That’s is unTGM as it gets.