Originally Posted by Toolish (Post 54873)

I can tell you I try to hit the inside of the ball for sure...maybe I need to work on it some more and tie it in with the body rotation. Sure is all a big puzzle. Running out of right arm has always been a big problem of mine...I have never found my secret to getting more bend there. Might have to start up a to do list for the swing!

Originally Posted by Toolish (Post 54870)

That is more of a squaring of the hips and a forward press...mirror work a couple of weeks ago indicated I had open hips at address so this is a recent addition in an attempt to square the hips and establish some spine angle. No problem, I like that idea.

If anything I have a tendency to set up with the face closed rather than open I'd guess not on this one- but closed to what? i.e. How do you know that you tend to set the face closed and closed to what?,

although I do sometimes roll it open excessively early in the backswingI have never worked on a delayed or snap release, I have a random release which tends closer to sweep than snap, I have dealt with that. What does "dealt with that mean?"

I have in the past had a very bad flip and dip and IO think some of the body movement may tie back to that. It is definately something I am aware of.Nice tie in...never clicked to that!!

Do you think the weight on the toes and the coming out of posture ties into being too far from the ball at address and therefore having the weight too forward No

Bit confused what you mean here...there may be a bit of OTT maybe linked in with the laid off position at the topI know I have to hit down and out through the ball...it is my key thought when things start to go bad...knowing it and doing it may be different things though! Now, you've brought up an important point- The clubshaft and clubhead move on plane- and the clubhead therefore is moving down, out and forward. That does not mean that you necessarily "try" to move it down, out and forward. That does not mean that you necessarily "feel" it move down, out and forward. You see -what's happening in a movement from a third party perspective i.e. looking through the camera at a golf swing and what you are trying to do - are two completely different things. Without discussing in more detail - you have over done the down, out and forward- you need more down.

Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 54879)

Besides the inside of the ball- with say your 7 iron - where do you try to hit the ball- direct your lag- below the equator?, at the equator?, above the equator?, how much? If you had to precisely locate it - what dimple are you going after? Use the diagram below representing the back of the ball and a is the top of the ball, c is the equator, e is the bottom of the ball. colomn one is the ball closest to you - column 5 is the part of the ball furthest away. Dead Center back of the ball is C3
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What's you handicap or average score?

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 54884)

Is there some sort of anti-Christ message in all that mumbojumbo you typed up there? Hey! Somebody check the back of Mike's neck for a bar code!

Ok I understand what you are getting at interms of compression . . . . and concepts etc. BUT . . . . your intent may be to do what you describe . . . but can you do it effectively if your head hangs back.

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Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 54878)

Just me- I'm not really worried about head movement.

Originally Posted by hg (Post 54831)

Here's the DTL view ...this may help with the analysis:)

Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 54878)

Just me- I'm not really worried about head movement.

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 54890)

12 Piece vs. Mike O . . .

:boxing:

Corners are getting ready! And in the black trunks . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O5Wu948TH4

And in the red trunks . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlddW0VkWoU


Yo Adrian!!!

SEE YA AT CUSCOWILLA!!!

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 54893)

Lunatic 1 to Lunatic 2 to Lunatic 3 . . .

Why would you not be worried about head movement?

I'm not saying that head movement is the end all be all . . . BUT the head indicates what the pivot maybe doing . . . TO THE LOW POINT . . . . AND . . . IF THE HEAD HANGS BACK THE PIVOT STALLS THE ARMS RUN AWAY AND THE FACE SHUTS FAST . . . Massive rotor just stalled out and everything else goes out and away.

I may have to get that human head in the fridge wild eyed look, drink a lot of coffee, smoke some cigs and make a youtube video . . . .

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