Elk/Doyle
 

Did anyone see the Champions Clinic from the 2002 P.G.A. Championship? Steve Elkington had Mr. Doyle's address procedure down to perfection. He also included a little T.G.M. in his brief demonstration of how to hit(actually Swing) the long irons.

Lagster,

Elk is working with my two friends ...Mike Bennett and Andy Plummer...He's been playing better...Don't ya think?

What are the main concepts that Andy works on? What are his views on the book in general?

Elk
 

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Annikan,

Yes, Elk has been playing well. I saw him hit(swing) a drive at Doral this spring. I noticed his left foot was flared out quite a bit, looked like about 60 degrees or so. He crushed the drive... right down the middle, as I recall.

Andy loves the the Book....used to be a GSEM... works at Aronimink in Philly....he's agreat guy....Mike Bennett is always "on the road" between the PGA Tour...Florida and New Jersey!!! I don't know what he's working oin with Elk...I'm sure it's just tuning up the ferrari!!!

Skywalker

After Ben did all the HARD work, these guys get to play around with zone 3.

Simple as that.

Now....there is a ART to zone 3 instruction, and I am sure they are good at it....

Just not a big MORAD fan.

Sorry.

Brian,

Point well made...Zone #3 adjustments....But still...these guys are good and they're good guys as well.

I am sure they are.

No offense meant, just never saw a MORAD swing that didn't looked 'rigged.'

Brian,

Why do a lot of players who get coached extensively by Ben have IMO too much body movement? No pivot centered tripod. Ben says: "My head moves because of momentum"...that's a bad excuse IMO.

I did a whole video on the subject.

The working title was: "Pivot Wars."

But, at some point in a teacher-student relationship, the student needs to figure out that it can become more off a democracy.

As far a head movement goes....I can show you TONS of world-famous golfers who had it...and just as many who didn't.

You can view Mr. Kelley's swing on this site and decide for yourself about head and body movement. I have to believe that Mr. Kelley had it correct
since the flat left wrist and 3 dimensional stroke are perfect in the video.

What do you mean by "never seen a MORAD swing that didn't look 'rigged'"?

Rigid?

Brian:

Did a "Pivot Wars" search on your Brian Manzella Golf Forum with no luck.

Can you please give the link to the vid?

Cheers!

It is his video short #4

Shoulder turn takeaway vs right forearm takeaway.

He discusses the differences in both and the pros/cons of each.

At the PLAYERS championship this year, Elk looked to ME to have his hands too low, his hands too forward and his left wrist too bent at the top.

He is doing NONE of that on his way to a comback victory.

He is using a different hinge/swivel (more cut-off) than Ben had him doing.

These guys are getting some good pub on TV and they deserve it.

It does look MORE Ben and LESS MORAD though.

Maybe these guys are better teachers than Mac.

Good luck guys.