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tongzilla 06-06-2006 05:39 AM

Photos and diagrams
 
Is it just me or does anyone else find the photos in the new 7th edition to be fuzzier and less clear than those in the 6th?

The new computer drawn diagrams such as those showing the Impact Interval (2-C) and The Flail (2-K) are much clearer though.

efnef 06-06-2006 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tongzilla
Is it just me or does anyone else find the photos in the new 7th edition to be fuzzier and less clear than those in the 6th?

The new computer drawn diagrams such as those showing the Impact Interval (2-C) and The Flail (2-K) are much clearer though.

I agree on both counts. The photos are labeled better, though.

EdZ 06-06-2006 10:57 AM

Yep - diagrams are much improved, photos not as clear

metallion 06-06-2006 12:56 PM

I don't get it...
 
My 7th edition has color photographs of superb quality. Amazing how they have stood the test of time.

I also just love the enclosed DVD with all of Homers masters classes plus the audio.

I also love that I can download the master classes audio to my iPod from the Home Office site.

The only thing that bugs me is that I am just kidding.

tongzilla 06-06-2006 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metallion
My 7th edition has color photographs of superb quality. Amazing how they have stood the test of time.

I also just love the enclosed DVD with all of Homers masters classes plus the audio.

I also love that I can download the master classes audio to my iPod from the Home Office site.

The only thing that bugs me is that I am just kidding.

For a split second, I thought you were being serious. Alas...:crybaby:

12 piece bucket 06-06-2006 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metallion
My 7th edition has color photographs of superb quality. Amazing how they have stood the test of time.

I also just love the enclosed DVD with all of Homers masters classes plus the audio.

I also love that I can download the master classes audio to my iPod from the Home Office site.

The only thing that bugs me is that I am just kidding.

I talked to one of the owners and asked "What's next?" Crickets . . .

They are either lacking in vision, funds or both.

lagster 06-06-2006 06:01 PM

Pictures
 
Some updated pictures would probably do wonders for TGM. Maybe some copyrite laws prevent them from changing to more updated pictures.

Non- TGMers would probably be much more receptive to the TGM Book with some dynamic, real action pictures of all the motion parts of the Strokes, rather than the posed pictures that have served so well for all these years.

Maybe a separate insert of some kind could be done?

mrodock 06-06-2006 08:06 PM

Great post lagster. To be perfectly honest, 4 years ago the stills really turned me away from the book, and the fact that I had trouble immediately comprehending it (which was not something I associated with a golf instruction book).

Matt

efnef 06-07-2006 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagster
Some updated pictures would probably do wonders for TGM. Maybe some copyrite laws prevent them from changing to more updated pictures.

Non- TGMers would probably be much more receptive to the TGM Book with some dynamic, real action pictures of all the motion parts of the Strokes, rather than the posed pictures that have served so well for all these years.

Maybe a separate insert of some kind could be done?

This, of course, will come to pass some time in the future when the copywrite has expired and the book enters the public domain. Then we will have many, many editions featuring full color, glossy photos, accompanying dvds, chip implants that will position us correctly for the components of our choice, and maybe even a free floating , white-gloved bionic hand to wipe our butts for us when we poop. :eyes:

Uh, let me add that this post is meant to be light hearted in intent.

Bagger Lance 06-07-2006 10:59 AM

The Life of a Book
 
I've done some investigation on how to publish a book for Yoda and learned a few things that probably apply to The Golfing Machine.

The Golfing Machine is, and has always been self published. Meaning only Homer, and now the head office has any rights to the book. They are fully responsible for every aspect of the books creation, marketing, promotion, and channels of distribution. On the positive side, Joe and Co. have complete control over the look/feel/content/rights and shelf life of the book. On the negative side, the book is entirely self funded, not promoted by industry resources, not picked up by major retailers, and lacks professional inputs. But, once you get a publisher involved, you sell your rights to the book to them.

TGM would never survive with your basic NY publishers. The volumes are too low to make it after the first introduction to the market. Most books have a shelf life of one year. The test of a books success is whether or not it's still in demand after a year. If not, it's replaced by the next new thing. In sports books, Harvey Penicks Little Red Book is the most successful...ever.

Bagger

lagster 06-07-2006 11:06 AM

Book
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
I've done some investigation on how to publish a book for Yoda and learned a few things that probably apply to The Golfing Machine.

The Golfing Machine is, and has always been self published. Meaning only the head office has any rights to the book. They are fully responsible for every aspect of the books creation, marketing, promotion, and channels of distribution. On the positive side, Joe and Co. have complete control over the look/feel/content/rights and shelf life of the book. On the negative side, the book is entirely self funded, not promoted by industry resources, not picked up by major retailers, and lacks professional inputs. But, once you get a publisher involved, you sell your rights to the book to them.

TGM would never survive with your basic NY publishers. The volumes are too low to make it after the first introduction to the market. Most books have a shelf life of one year. The test of a books success is whether or not it's still in demand after a year. If not, it's replaced by the next new thing. In sports books, Harvey Penicks Little Red Book is the most successful...ever.

Bagger

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Yes... TGM should maybe be handled more like a school text book, rather than one placed in stores to make a lot of money. Although, I think it could make money if the right things happen. There are a lot of biology text books out there!

mrodock 06-07-2006 11:16 PM

efnef,

Agree with everything except for I believe the hand should have a brown glove on it. Nice work though!

Matt

strav 06-08-2006 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
In sports books, Harvey Penicks Little Red Book is the most successful...ever.

Bagger

And it wouldn't have 10 percent of the info in TGM.

drewitgolf 06-08-2006 10:01 AM

Harvey vs. Hogan
 
While the folks over at Simon & Schuster would have us believe that Mr. Penick's book is numero uno (as also stated by the late Dave Marr in the "Little Green Video"), the New York Times might argue there case for Ben Hogan's Five Lessons, The Modern Fundamentals of Golf. Both continue to this day to be top sellers according to The Booklegger (golf's leading distributor in books and DVD's).

Weightshift 06-09-2006 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tongzilla
Is it just me or does anyone else find the photos in the new 7th edition to be fuzzier and less clear than those in the 6th?

The new computer drawn diagrams such as those showing the Impact Interval (2-C) and The Flail (2-K) are much clearer though.

I'm surprised. I was talking with Doug Doo-shet-toe(sp?) in Beaverton some weeks ago and he told me that they were having some graphics specialists work on the photos to clean them up for the next edition. He might have been talking about the 8th edition though because he also said that they were going to have a team of engineers from MIT examine the text for mechanical correctness of description. He added "..it won't be Homer any more, sadly..".

I was in touch with him because I have converted the 6th edition to HTML for personal use only and have found that scanning the photos in the book only made them worse (as one might expect) and as I did not have the technical savvy to clean the pictures up myself, asked if there were any other source of these pictures.

Would be interesting to hear from someone who has a 1st edition as to whether the pictures are clearer.


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