Book Errors
 

Spotted a couple of editing errors.

Page 175, "Pivot"

Picture Titles reversed :naughty:

Bagger

Trust Me
 

Page 84, "6-E-2. The Aiming Point Concept"

Typo on line 9.

(or of the Trust during the Circle Path per 7-23)

Bagger

In 10-9-A there's a reference to 7-19-E. I suspect it's suppose to be 7-19-3.

Bagger,

That's just the Irish pronunciation and nothing to worry about.:)

Listen Up!
 

Right you are, Burner.

I've learned this in the past year...

As in 'terteen and 'terty.' :)

Dats roight, to be sure it is.:)

One, Two, Tree
 

As long as we still got Tree Imperatives, we are fine.

Tanks por Nuttin...

Tis tread is a big hit!\\:D/ LOL.

I thought it might be valuable to have an area where book errors are documented, thinking that it would be helpful to members and the home office.

Oh well.

Bagguh

Is there a list of 6th Edition errors?

Error..moved #10 Hinge Action to Zone #2...9-2...p.125...but forgot to change the last paragraph in 9-0 on Page 121... "And, any Hinge Action is Ball Control(Zone #3)...WTF....now I'm really confused....

War Zones
 

Hinge Action is one of the Three Major Concepts of The Golfing Machine. As such, its identity and lines of demarcation must be crystal-clear. In the new 7th edition, editorial inconsistencies (throughout the book) have caused those lines to be blurred and, hence, its identity to be compromised.

I don't yet have the 7th edition, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Chapter Ten subtitle under Hinge Action (10-10) is still Ball Control. And Ball Control is defined in 9-0 as a Zone #3 function. In fact, Zone #3 includes "all the elements of Ball Control" and, as you have noted, "any Hinge Action IS Ball Control (Zone #3)." Zone #2, on the other hand, is defined as "Club Control" (9-0) and "Power" (9-2). The conflict is obvious and demands resolution.

See my post #5 in this link http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=3036 and also its imbedded link written well prior to the 7th's publication.

In my opinion, the removal of Hinge Action from Zone #3 and its re-assignment to Zone #2 was the biggest challenge facing the publisher of the new 7th. I do not underestimate the difficulty of integrating that re-assignment with the rest of the book. However, if the publisher was not prepared to make the necessary changes -- changes I am convinced Homer Kelley would have made prior to publication had he lived -- then Hinge Action should have been left to reside without conflict in Zone #3, its established home for the prior six editions.

So are you're implying it could be in both Zones...Zone #2 the Arms Lane is what it does...moves around the pin....Zone #3 the Hands Lane are what it controls...the Clubface?

Yes!
 

Yes! I agree.

Identity Theft
 

If you see Hinge Action -- the Rhythmic Roll of the #3 Power Accumulator (the Angle formed between the Left Arm and Clubshaft when the Club is gripped under the heel of the Left Hand) from Impact to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position) -- as being automatically induced by the Physics of Rotation (Hitting or Swinging), then you see it as a Zone #2 (Power) Component.

If, on the other hand, you see Hinge Action as the veneer control applied by the Flat Left Wrist to individualize that Motion -- independent of the Motion itself -- into the three distinct applications of Clubface Control (Close Only, Layback Only and Simultaneous Close and Layback), then you see it as a Zone #3 (Purpose) Component.

One not-so-minor problem: If you see Hinge Action as being purely a function of the Physics of Rotation, then what do you do with Vertical Hinge Action (and its Clubface Layback Only)? It is neither the natural byproduct of Hitting (with its Muscularly-Powered Angled Hinging -- Simultaneous Clubface Close and Layback) or Swinging (with its Centrifugally-Powered Horizontal Hinging -- Clubface Closing Only). It is always, then, regardless of Lag Loading procedure, a "deliberate mechanical manipulation" (6-B-3-0). And that can only be Zone #3.

I suspect the debate will continue on this one, but suffice to say, per 2-S there is a valid argument for both zone 2 and/or zone 3 per Yoda above.

Sometimes it is helpful to remember that humans 'divide' and 'categorize' for perspective, yet often that very act of trying to organize and describe gets in the way of the 'whole picture'.

What Hinge Action Is...And Is Not...In Homer's Own Words
 

Unfortunately, Homer Kelley can no longer answer our questions regarding the logic behind the move of Hinge Action from Zone #3 (the Hands Lane) in the first six editions to Zone #2 (the Arms Lane) in the 7th. However, his words live on in the recordings of his three Golf Stroke Engineering Master Classes conducted during 1981-1982. I have personally transcribed the direct quotes below to help us understand the rationale behind this radical shift.

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-- "Hinge action is the result of angular motion on an inclined plane."

-- "The hinge action is not a motion of the hands. It's a paddle[wheel] motion of the pivot and the arm swing, and it is the result of an angular motion...a circular motion...and it takes place on an inclined plane."

-- "Hinge action is not a wrist motion. It is an arm and pivot motion. The hand only is positioned [vertical to one of the three associated planes] and then takes on its arm and body rotating motion."

-- "The hinge action is not a hand motion, a hand action, or a hand anything except position. It is the position that has been set up to be vertical to one of the three basic planes."

-- "The thing is...the pivot and the arm motion produce the hinge action. It is not a hand motion except in the position in which you are maintaining it...vertical to an associated plane."

Hall of Fame posts here...green man....I understand..and agree....

"You Da Man!!!"...said the gallery..

Did I hear a ....:notworthy golf clap?

i would have to agree that it is zone#3,simply stating mr kelly beleived in a hand controlled pivot.if you put it in zone#2 then it becomes pivot controlled hands.correct me if i am wrong.always monitor the hands is what i have had beaten into my thick skull.and from a playing stand point i would also have to say zone #3

I agree with Homer....when Chuck and Lynn first started their websites, I always talked about hinge action with Right arm motion and left wrist motion (but got blasted for it)....you control the hinges with the arms and monitor the exection of hinge through the hands, preferably the left wrist. It's still a hands controlled pivot.

Geezz, this makes for another good Tomasello video reference...again, I believe this proves that Tomasello was again teaching from the 7th edition (notes)....in the Australia video, when talking about the horizontal hinges, Tommy repeatly said horizontal hinging produced the most distance out of all three hinge actions. So, it's not surprising that hinge action has been incorporated into the POWER lane of the three lane highway, The "Arms Lane"...there is an element of power in the hinges.

Some really great lines by Homer on page 125 (7th Edition).

-So mastery of "Release Motions" (4-D-0) is essential, indispensable, mandatory and imperative.
-Good Golf is Power Golf...ya got to love that one.
-Remove all pressures against "Power First".
-Power techniques are Power Control.
-As "Power" is acquired, "Direction" will improve until Zone #3 becomes mostly "Finesse" control.

Wisdom in the true Yoda fashion.

DG

so then, if i understand correctly in my thick thick noodle, the desired hinge action HH AH VH is programmed through 3 different planes associated through the desired hinge action, and the bod-arms-pivot must be able to reconcile the hand vertical too chosen plane for the correct motion? theres a mouthfull, i dont know if that makes sense.

I have always tried to 'work' my hands in a hinging motion back and down and through, gets flippy after impact, this could be why? Especially that at startdown, my goal is right shoulder along same line, no matter the hinge action, too the ball... Gonna blow my engine so i'll stop there. :confused1

I think the same lightbulb just went off in my head, powerdraw. If I'm understand correctly the hands feel "quiet" in executing the 3 hinge actions properly; they just hang on.

HH is automatic in an uninhibited swing but AH and VH do require manual intervention on our behalf.

Do you mean a manual intervention besides the drive out action of the right arm (in hitting)?

This is a great thread gentlemen,

First of all, we all have to look at these changes in terms of how they are CORRECT first, and exhaust all of the possibilities before assuming that because something is unfamiliar or new it must be incorrect. This system is such a precious intellectual commodity, we owe it to ourselves to have these discussions for the greater good. I appreciate the candor of this type of discussion, we all gain from civilized debate. For my piece, I wasn't terribly troubled by this change simply because the Hinge is mounted at the shoulder. Thanks again to all for the efforts you all make to absorb and apply.

Couples Class
 

Horizontal Hinging is indeed the automatic result of the Swinger's Centrifugal Force Throw-Out Action. Thus, Angled Hinging requires the Swinger's "manual intervention."

Similarly, Angled Hinging is the automatic result of the Hitter's Muscular Thrust Drive-Out Action. And Horizontal Hinging requires the Hitter's manual intervention.

Vertical Hinging -- the Clubface staying Square to the Line in Layback-only mode -- is the natural byproduct of neither Swinging nor Hitting. As such, it is always a deliberate, mechanical manipulation.

Staying On Track
 

This thread is getting a bit off topic, and my reply above didn't help matters. Questions unrelated to Book Errors should be asked and answered, but in other Forums. Let's stay on track. :)

So, according to Mr Kelley........
 

Sorry for this obvious ( to some) but after some glases of fine Rioja I have to ask:

They should be in Zone 2?

Salud

Book Error
 

Page 131- Zone#3 has the heading of The "Arms" Lane AND The "Hands" Lane.

Unforced Errors
 

Thanks, Mike.

Unforced Errors
 

Must say in the Golfing Machine By-Laws somewhere- There will never be Editors allowed in the publishing of this book! Or at least no good ones.

Add to your checklist
 

12-3-0 Mechanical Checklist for all Strokes
Section 8 Downstroke

add: 29. Extensor Action

I've been into my copy of TGM--7th for only 4 weeks now, although I purchased it months ago.

Pages 13-78 have completely fallen out of the book in one big block, and more will follow. No refund/replacement.

I'm wondering if this is "a sign from above" that I should search out an earlier, better bound edition? :confused1

Take a Page out this book
 

Contact The Golfing Machine Directly www.thegolfingmachine.com , they will replace/or rebind the book for you.

Thanks, Drewit, I'll give that a try.

The Golfing Machine will most likely rebind the book, instead of replacing it. This actually worked better for me. My copy came back spiral bound. The book lies flat when open, for easy reading and reference.

Rank has its privileges!
 

Spiral bound editions are only available to A.I.'s, such as youself, at the present.

My new 7th Ed. came last week. The binding looks different from my first copy that fell apart. So far, so good.

Any book binder can easily spiral bound a copy of TGM book.

I repaired my book locally at a local Print shop. for 2 dollars

and they even gave me a String book mark without me requesting it