Just for the sake of argument:
I would argue that in the real world no one uses centrifugal force to swing a golf club.

Hmm? Does the club have a center of gravity?

If it moves in a circle . . . it's got CF.

Sounds like you guys are using TGM science that doesn't hold much weight outside of the yellow book.

School us then . . . how does it work?

What do you know about it? :laughing9

Defining Centrifugal Force
 

Change,

As you can see, we have established a special thread wherein you may state and defend your arguments.

:)

Homer Kelley was well aware of the academic arguments concerning centrifugal force. In fact, he discussed those issues with our January 1982 GSEM class. In one of the lighter-hearted moments of that week, and with his voice mocking his detractors, he said: "There is no such thing as centrifugal force, son!"

In his book (The Glossary) he chose to define it for golfers as follows:

CENTRIFUGAL FORCE

Example -- whirling weight on a string.

Mechanical -- The resistance of the Inertia in an orbiting object to change in direction.

Golf -- The effort of the Swinging Clubhead to pull the Primary Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club) into a straight line.

This common ground concept underlies most discussions throughout our Forums. However, in this special thread, feel free to 'have it your way'. I don't expect any earth-shaking revelations or resolutions -- in the 25 years since Homer's passing, the arguments have grown quite tired -- but you will have had your say, and as a result of the discussion, we all may actually learn something.

:salut:

Physicists labeled centrifugal force- “ficticious” as opposed to a “True” force not because it doesn’t exist but because it exists within limitations, unlike Gravity that exists in all conditions. The limitations that surround centrifugal force is that it only occurs within a rotational force- like a rock on a whirling string or lets see…. A golf swing that propels a clubhead along a circle and is released with the uncocking of the left wrist along a straight base line. Centrifugal force and centripetal force can only exist together at the same time with each other.

I see the play on words. But for the sake of argument- I'd say you definitely need to use centrifugal force to swing a golf club. Since you went first- go ahead and prove your point- then I'll try to prove mine.

I'm all here by myself waiting:crybaby:

Alone
 

Answering your own posts is usually something our wayward pal Buck does. FWIW, I am on your side again, Mike. But I reserve the right to switch sides if Matthew starts slinging video around.........

UPP in snowy again Ohio

Just like high school . ..

UPP, Were you the one that showed Matthew how to use YouTube!:rambo: He's unstoppable with that thing! He hasn't posted in a couple of days cause I took down his youtube account- in other words don't mess with me or I'll blow up your computer!

What do you have 60 inches of snow so far this year?

Ohio Weather, Matthew, YouTube, and the Buck
 

Mike O,

Congrats on the Matthew thing.

See if you can have any luck slowing down the Bucket's posting rate. He's got some kind of hand jive thing going on now......I don't even want to go there.

I think the snowfall this year is around 70" or so. And it ain't over yet.....sometimes.....not too often..I wish I was in the land of Cotton...tonight is one of those times!

UPP in snowy Ohio

MIT Physics Demo -- Centrifugal vs Centripetal Motion
 

No.... It doesn't exist because it DOESN'T EXIST. Lets say you are a physicist tasked with analyzing a problem. Lets say you decide it would be easier to solve if you let the coordinate system rotate with the object being studied. A coordinate system that is allowed to rotate is called a: NON-INERTIAL coordinate system. When we us a non-inertial coordinate system to solve a problem we must include a FUDGE FACTOR.... A FICTITIOUS (meaning not real or non-existent) force in order to make Newton's laws work. We call this non-existent fudge factor CENTRIFUGAL FORCE.