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jaridyard 09-09-2008 04:40 PM

Becoming AI = Lining the pockets of TGM llc?
 
I was looking into GSEB levels I & II with a view to becoming authorised, it seems like a large investment and having recently spent an inordinate amount of time with the book and the LBG forum fear that I might not actually learn anything that I'm not in the process of learning here.

My question is.... 'is it worth it?' as for the amount they want I'm fairly sure I could fly to the swamp for some quality time :salut:

drewitgolf 09-09-2008 04:52 PM

Why do you want to be authorized?

jaridyard 09-09-2008 05:07 PM

Sorry, i should have mentioned that I'm a PGA member in the UK and a full time coach with a biomechanics and physiology background.

I research a lot and am always open to new/old theory but despite all this feel drawn back to TGM, it's objective and logical, two words I'd use to describe both myself and my teaching.

Being authorised wouldn't enhance my business but I hoped might go some way to quenching my thirst!

6bmike 09-09-2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 55774)
Why do you want to be authorized?


Great question that needs to be answered first.

I know I will never become a golf instructor, heck I hardly get a chance to play anymore so I would have no need to for the letters next to my name but it doesn't mean I don't know a little about the book or need to stop pursuing a greater understanding. Homer is habit forming- I got the sickness.

purehitter 09-09-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaridyard (Post 55775)
Sorry, i should have mentioned that I'm a PGA member in the UK and a full time coach with a biomechanics and physiology background.

I research a lot and am always open to new/old theory but despite all this feel drawn back to TGM, it's objective and logical, two words I'd use to describe both myself and my teaching.

Being authorised wouldn't enhance my business but I hoped might go some way to quenching my thirst!

I would make the investment and get authorized. There are many benefits as well. One of the benefits to becoming authorized is the Free exposure from the show “All About G.O.L.F.” on Golf Academy Live.Com. All authorized TGM G.O.L.F. instructors are invited to participate on the live “All About G.O.L.F.” shows and talk about the book and their instruction programs. I am advertizing Golf Academy Live.Com in Golf Digest, Golf and Golf Tips magazines monthly and soon the golfing public will know about TGM and the benefits of learning the golf swing from an authorized TGM G.O.L.F. Instructor. Also as an authorized TGM G.O.L.F. Instructor you will be listed on the Golf Academy Live.Com web site with links to your web site and email address for Free as well. On Golf Academy Live.Com you can teach private lessons live 24/7 on-line at 320x240, 20 frames in HD to anyone in the world. It is my way of promoting TGM to the world. Joe will be promoting it on TGM web site as well. I am sure Lynn will promote it as I would like him to be one of the hosts on the show “All About G.O.L.F.” I welcome the promoting of TGM and the authorized TGM G.O.L.F. Instructors on Golf Academy Live.Com The more we can get the word out the stronger TGM will be. I say united we stand divided we fall. It is time for all authorized TGM G.O.L.F. Instructors to work together and promote the greatest book ever. I think we owe it to Homer.

John W Rohan-Weaver G.S.E.M.

6bmike 09-09-2008 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 55781)
I would make the investment and get authorized. There are many benefits as well. One of the benefits to becoming authorized is the Free exposure from the show “All About G.O.L.F.” on Golf Academy Live.Com. All authorized TGM G.O.L.F. instructors are invited to participate on the live “All About G.O.L.F.” shows and talk about the book and their instruction programs. I am advertizing Golf Academy Live.Com in Golf Digest, Golf and Golf Tips magazines monthly and soon the golfing public will know about TGM and the benefits of learning the golf swing from an authorized TGM G.O.L.F. Instructor. Also as an authorized TGM G.O.L.F. Instructor you will be listed on the Golf Academy Live.Com web site with links to your web site and email address for Free as well. On Golf Academy Live.Com you can teach private lessons live 24/7 on-line at 320x240, 20 frames in HD to anyone in the world. It is my way of promoting TGM to the world. Joe will be promoting it on TGM web site as well. I am sure Lynn will promote it as I would like him to be one of the hosts on the show “All About G.O.L.F.” I welcome the promoting of TGM and the authorized TGM G.O.L.F. Instructors on Golf Academy Live.Com The more we can get the word out the stronger TGM will be. I say united we stand divided we fall. It is time for all authorized TGM G.O.L.F. Instructors to work together and promote the greatest book ever. I think we owe it to Homer.

John W Rohan-Weaver G.S.E.M.

Lynn is NOT an Authorized Instructor.

Ian Clark 09-10-2008 04:40 AM

Jaridyard, I am based in the uk, and am an AI, if you wish to contact me about the upcoming class in October in London please do so. Ian Clark.

purehitter 09-10-2008 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 55782)
Lynn is NOT an Authorized Instructor.

6bmike,

Are you saying Lynn is not a G.S.E.D. Authorized Instructor?

This is news to me.

Lynn would you please clear the air on this subject.

I can't believe you did not take the test to become an authorized Instructor.

Thanks,

John W Rohan-Weaver G.S.E.M.

6bmike 09-10-2008 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 55784)
6bmike,

Are you saying Lynn is not a G.S.E.D. Authorized Instructor?

This is news to me.

Lynn would you please clear the air on this subject.

I can't believe you did not take the test to become an authorized Instructor.

Thanks,

John W Rohan-Weaver G.S.E.M.

Thats is what I'm saying. I'll let Lynn explain the details if he wishes- not my place.

SECGolf 09-10-2008 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaridyard (Post 55775)
Being authorised wouldn't enhance my business but I hoped might go some way to quenching my thirst!

I don't think that is is a stretch to say that all professional certifications, in the end, deal with the benefits of enhancing business (yours and the certifying body's), with the possible exception of businesses that deal with public safety.

And far as quenching thirst, the individual can find many ways to do that, some a lot better and a lot more cost effective than others.

drewitgolf 09-10-2008 09:22 AM

One of an Educated Handful
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 55782)
Lynn is NOT an Authorized Instructor.

He did attain the highest degree within TGM; GSED.

purehitter 09-10-2008 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 55787)
He did attain the highest degree within TGM; GSED.

I thought so.

purehitter 09-10-2008 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 55785)
Thats is what I'm saying. I'll let Lynn explain the details if he wishes- not my place.

There was a test before Joe bought the company. I took it as well as many other authorized instructors did and I am sure Lynn took it as well. If he took the test and passed he is authorized. Now if Lynn did not continue to pay the dues there could be a problem but the dues are only $150 a year so I am sure Lynn pays that.

mrodock 09-10-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 55789)
There was a test before Joe bought the company. I took it as well as many other authorized instructors did and I am sure Lynn took it as well. If he took the test and passed he is authorized. Now if Lynn did not continue to pay the dues there could be a problem but the dues are only $150 a year so I am sure Lynn pays that.

There were circumstances. If Lynn wishes to discuss so be it, but leave it alone.

purehitter 09-10-2008 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrodock (Post 55790)
There were circumstances. If Lynn wishes to discuss so be it, but leave it alone.

This is the first I have heard about it. I guess it must be serious for you to tell me to leave it alone. I did check the golfing machine web site and did not see Lynn’s name but I know they are doing updates to the site. I have seen my name pulled before and put back up during web work. I hope all is ok as I believe homer would want all authorized instructors to work together. We are all teaching out of the same book. Lynn I hope all is well with TGM.

6bmike 09-10-2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 55787)
He did attain the highest degree within TGM; GSED.

Yes he did. A genuine GSED. And in all of our eyes he will always be more than an AI- he is the GM instructor and keeper of the light.

Yoda 09-10-2008 01:13 PM

The Teacher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 55784)
6bmike,

Are you saying Lynn is not a G.S.E.D. Authorized Instructor?

This is news to me.

Lynn would you please clear the air on this subject.

The G.O.L.F. Authorized Instructor ("AI") program was established by Homer Kelley, author of the landmark textbook, The Golfing Machine. It has always required an initial certification in what is termed Golf Stroke Engineering and, in addition, an ongoing annual renewal fee (currently $150). The three levels of certification are Bachelor (GSEB); Master (GSEM); and Doctor (GSED).

During Homer's lifetime, the Bachelor certification could be earned by completing the requisite programs (Basic and Intermediate Courses) with another Authorized Instructor who had earned a higher designation, i.e., either Master or Doctor. Only Homer himself could award the Master and Doctor designations.

Homer's GSEM class was based loosely on his own Normal Course, but more importantly, involved a five-day personal course of study under his private tutelage. There was no GSED course. After his first two awards (see below), and absent a formal course leading to the highest certification, his sole criteria at the time of his death was: "When you can do what I do."

Meanwhile, Homer understood the immediate need to expand his AI network as rapidly as possible. He wanted as many 'boots on the ground' as he could get and knew that standards would tighten over time. So, his preoccupation during those early days was to elevate the overall level of Bachelor training (by expanding the knowledge of the Masters). He wanted candidates entering his own GSEM courses -- which he taught only every six months or so -- to possess the same level of understanding as that possessed by his own most recent graduates! A pretty tall order, but that was his objective.

Homer conferred Doctor status on only two individuals: Ben Doyle, the first Authorized Instructor, and Bobby Clampett, the first recognized touring professional. He conferred Master status on 18 individuals (alphabetically): Larry Aspenson; Lynn Blake; Dick Farley; John Fey; Mike Holder; Bruce Hough; Bob Ledbetter; Rick McCord; Greg McHatton; Bill Meyer; Jay Perkins; Don Shaw; Steve Snyder; Craig Stainbrook; Alex Sloan; and Tom Tomasello.

That policy -- Master AIs training Bachelor AIs (ideally using Homer's own Basic and Intermediate Courses and the test bank of questions) -- was continued by his widow, Sally Kelley, for 20 years. She also awarded the GSED designations to selected individuals, e.g., Tom Tomasello and Alex Sloan, who were in Homer's first GSEM Class. There would be others, but with no formal program in place, that designation was awarded based on her personal view of "service to The Golfing Machine".

In 2002, Sally sold the company to The Golfing Machine, LLC, an entity co-owned at that time by Joe Daniels and Danny Elkins. Part of their mission was to take control of all the training and put in place standards to assure its uniformity and thus, the integrity of the various certifications. Accordingly, Master and Doctor Instructors could no longer certify the lower grades. Instead, all certification was to be accomplished in courses run by the company, with curriculums designed and taught principally by Joe Daniels in his role as Director of Education. Danny has since sold his interest in the company, but that policy has been continued.

Now to My Story:

As has been chronicled in these pages and in audio recordings, Tom Tomasello and I began our study of The Golfing Machine in the same city (Marietta, Georgia) and at the same time (1979). He had retired from the Marine Corps and was working in the golf business as an independent soft goods salesman. I had come off a four-year tour of duty in the Air Force, finished up at Georgia Tech and was running my own financial planning firm.

Tom went out to see Ben Doyle, got his Bachelor designation and then, in January 1981, earned his GSEM from Homer. Later that summer, I decided to take the AI plunge. Tommy and I got together on his back porch for my Bachelor test -- he knew my knowledge level from our own joint study plus the time I was spending with Homer on the telephone -- and a half hour and $50 later, I was a GSEB.

When Homer put out his second G.O.L.F. Bulletin (Vol. 1 No. 2) in September 1981, I was pleased to see my name listed. But, I was even more pleased to get his call (and later, his letter) inviting me to attend his GSEM class in Seattle in January 1982. At the conclusion of our class, Homer presented each of the five students with their GSEM Authorized Instructor certificate. Our names and qualifying year were inscribed with a beautiful calligraphy and personally signed by Homer Kelley. What a proud moment that was!

I began teaching classes almost immediately -- Homer always encouraged group as well as private instruction -- and was really rolling along, even though I still operated my financial business. Spreading the TGM word had become very much a full-time, part-time job! And I loved it.

Homer died the next year (February 14, 1983), but my activities accelerated. I was teaching more than ever and expanding my operations into surrounding states. I wanted to devote full time to the movement and do my best to build it around the world. Sally and her attorney, Carl Johnson, supported that idea, but they would not give me the legal assurances I needed to protect my work to build the brand. The AI agreement, then and now, exists at the pleasure of the owner and is unilateral, i.e., it must be renewed each year and can be cancelled at any time by the owner.

I proposed several alternatives, including a purchase of the rights. Legal work was done and agreements prepared -- I had been assured by Carl that they would reimburse half my costs, but they never did -- all to no avail: In the end, Sally just wouldn't budge. For a young guy with a wife, three kids and a whole 'nother career, that was unacceptable. I had no career in golf outside my own TGM schools and didn't want one. It would have been irresponsible to gamble the next most productive years of my life on their promises. So, in 1984, I allowed my AI agreement to lapse and simply walked away.

And now, fast forward twenty years . . .

:golfcart2:

Joe and Danny approached me in the spring of 2003, seeking my opinions in certain areas. I was glad to help where I could, including supplying them with various Homer Kelley recordings and memorabilia. But, I had no interest in returning to golf. How quickly things would change!

The next January, I wrote my first posts on their website, and in February helped Joe teach two GSEB level classes. I signed a new AI agreement, paid my dues and, in April with Chuck Evans, gave my first 'comeback' school -- Secrets of the Golfing Machine -- at the PGA TOUR Academy in St. Augustine, Florida. I was in frequent contact with both Danny and Joe, and along the way they awarded me GSED status and offered the opportunity to author an inaugural GSED curriculum. We had preliminary discussions on compensation -- either cash or equity -- but that's as far as it got.

I renewed my AI status in 2005 and, after Danny and Joe broke up, I continued to offer Joe my support. Unfortunately, I soon began to feel more headwinds than tailwinds from his direction, so I decided not to renew in 2006. This was a personal decision based on my own unique circumstance. I simply felt I had more freedom and could do a better job from outside the organization than from within. I have since encouraged many aspiring AIs to pursue Joe's training (and its requisite participation in the AI network).

So, for now, despite having many friends (and students) around the world who are current members of Joe's AI network, I personally am not. For those who would label my status, I guess you could use the term "formerly Authorized".

Works for me.

:)

okie 09-10-2008 01:56 PM

Good Readin'
 
Lynn,

You gotta pen something! Your writing style is lucid, lavish and laudible! :salut:

6bmike 09-10-2008 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okie (Post 55794)
Lynn,

You gotta pen something! Your writing style is lucid, lavish and laudible! :salut:


Lynn is the PG Wodehouse of The Golfing Mchine

YodasLuke 09-10-2008 08:25 PM

thank the Lord
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 55793)
The next January, I wrote my first posts on their website, and in February helped Joe teach two GSEB level classes.

It's unbelievable that I was in the first class. I wish everyone had the same opportunity, to have Lynn introduce the concepts. Who knew what the following years would hold?

Sligo33 09-10-2008 09:08 PM

If you are in the business of teaching golf and interested in TGM, You can save yourself a lot of time by becoming an AI. Joe Daniels does a great job of presenting and demonstrating the concepts of the golfing machine. After over 20+ years of reading, rereading the yellow book, I enrolled in GSEB I & II and became an AI.

It was an eye opening experience. I could see the forest and the trees. My Understanding of TGM increased on a massive scale. Was it worth the cost? It depends on what your time is worth. In two weeks, I learned more than I had in twenty years of on and off study. (maybe my incubater is a little rusty and bent). In my case I will say YES it was.

I am a little envious of YodasLuke. He got to learn at the foot the master. Yoda communicates his vast knowledge and understanding, of Homer Kelley's work, in a clear and concise manner. His writing style conveys his enthusiam for the topic. One can only imagine how dynamic and inspring his live presentation must be.

Through this website, I continue to learn more about the forest and the trees, and am having great fun doing it. Thanks LBG count me as a loyal and devoted member of your site.

Yoda 09-10-2008 09:58 PM

Another Road Taken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sligo33 (Post 55798)

Through this website, I continue to learn more about the forest and the trees, and am having great fun doing it. Thanks LBG count me as a loyal and devoted member of your site.

Thanks, Sligo.

Your post says a lot, and you express my feelings exactly about the mechanical (but necessary) learning process as offered by TGM, LLC. Moreover, your post, especially these last lines quoted above, means a lot.

Yesterday, I went to the dentist and had an old filling removed and replaced. In the beginning, there was lots of drilling, scraping and grinding -- as usual, I had requested no anesthetic :shock:, so I got the full effect -- but in the end, with the new filling applied, there was only polishing. With this as an analogy, introductory AI training emphasizes the 'drilling, scraping and grinding' -- a necessary 'paint by the numbers' approach -- with a minimum of 'polishing'. We understand this approach and appreciate it.

Meanwhile, with the fundamentals in place or, more often, as they are being put in place . . .

We at Lynn Blake Golf teach Motion.

Motion aligned Geometrically; learned Mechanically; and, ultimately, applied Subconsciously.

We are making a difference . . .

While earning our daily bread.

It's a good thing.

:salut:

purehitter 09-11-2008 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 55793)
The G.O.L.F. Authorized Instructor ("AI") program was established by Homer Kelley, author of the landmark textbook, The Golfing Machine. It has always required an initial certification in what is termed Golf Stroke Engineering and, in addition, an ongoing annual renewal (currently $150). The three levels of certification are Bachelor (GSEB); Master (GSEM); and Doctor (GSED).

Lynn,

I just finished watching a video web show of an instructor who instead of covering the topics on the list was to bash the way homer wrote TGM and your instruction. I know there are going to be differences in TGM instruction Men will be Men but this is not the way it should be. I just want to say that you are the real deal and offer more about TGM with your web site than any of the so called Cesar’s or Napoleons of the golf instruction world and I just want to thank you again for it.

John W Rohan-Weaver G.S.E.M.

pistol 09-11-2008 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 55802)
Lynn,

I just finished watching a video web show of an instructor who instead of covering the topics on the list was to bash the way homer wrote TGM and your instruction. I know there are going to be differences in TGM instruction Men will be Men but this is not the way it should be. I just want to say that you are the real deal and offer more about TGM with your web site than any of the so called Cesar’s or Napoleons of the golf instruction world and I just want to thank you again for it.

John W Rohan-Weaver G.S.E.M.

Cesar at it again?

drewitgolf 09-11-2008 09:40 AM

The Golf Omnibus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 55795)
Lynn is the PG Wodehouse of The Golfing Mchine

I Couldn't agree more. And I thought I was the only one that still read Wodehouse...The Heart of a Goof.

Yoda 09-11-2008 10:09 AM

My Brother's Keeper
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 55802)
Lynn,

I just finished watching a video web show of an instructor who instead of covering the topics on the list was to bash the way homer wrote TGM and your instruction. I know there are going to be differences in TGM instruction Men will be Men but this is not the way it should be.

I assume from your post that the "instructor" in question is an Authorized Instructor of The Golfing Machine, LLC, and publicly proclaims that fact. Hence, as an "insider", his inflammatory words carry more weight and are particularly damaging to the movement he is part of and claims to support.

The quote below does not apply directly to the situation you've described, but it does make the point:
"If you work for a man, in heaven's name work for him! If he pays you wages that supply you your bread and butter, work for him -- speak well of him, think well of him, stand by him and stand by the institution he represents. I think if I worked for a man I would work for him. I would not work for him a part of the time, and the rest of the time work against him. I would give an undivided service or none. If put to the pinch, an ounce of loyalty is worth a pound of cleverness."

-- Elbert Hubbard
There is a not-so-fine line between being an innovative force for change within an organization (for the benefit of all) and being deliberately divisive and controversial within that same organization (for one's own purpose).

Sounds to me like that line was crossed.

:salut:

purehitter 09-11-2008 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 55805)
I assume from your post that the "instructor" in question is an Authorized Instructor of The Golfing Machine, LLC, and publicly proclaims that fact. Hence, as an "insider", his words carry more weight and are particularly damaging to the movement he is part of and claims to support.

The quote below does not apply directly to the situation you've described, but it does make a point:
"If you work for a man, in heaven's name work for him! If he pays you wages that supply you your bread and butter, work for him -- speak well of him, think well of him, stand by him and stand by the institution he represents. I think if I worked for a man I would work for him. I would not work for him a part of the time, and the rest of the time work against him. I would give an undivided service or none. If put to the pinch, an ounce of loyalty is worth a pound of cleverness."

-- Elbert Hubbard
There is a not-so-fine line between being an innovative force for change within an organization (for the benefit of all) and being deliberately divisive and controversial within that same organization (for one's own purposes).

Sounds to me like that line was crossed.

:salut:

Yes you are correct. He is an authorized TGM instructor G.S.E.D.

Andy R 09-11-2008 11:26 AM

So who are we talking about, anyways? And what is his assertion? There's no reason why we can't speak freely, right?

By the way, I think we are defined by how we deal with our detractors, no matter how ridiculous they, or their assertions are. Detractors actually encourage people to become more informed about TGM, and in the end, thats what it's all about. So, I think whatever the perceived initial damage may be, it will ultimately be helpful.

IMHO, TGM is on it's way, and people like Lynn Blake and Chuck Evans will continue to enjoy steadily increasing popularity and success.

tincup2004 09-11-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy R (Post 55807)
So who are we talking about, anyways?

Manzella.

I'm all for free speech and differences of opinion but how valid is it if he has to drag someone else down to make his point?

State your POV and let your words and actions speak for themselves. Otherwise it just makes him look very insecure and petty.

just my .05 cents.

Andy R 09-11-2008 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tincup2004 (Post 55809)
Manzella.

I'm all for free speech and differences of opinion but how valid is it if he has to drag someone else down to make his point?

State your POV and let your words and actions speak for themselves. Otherwise it just makes him look very insecure and petty.

just my .05 cents.

Ah, the his way and everything else is just showbiz guy. He seems like he honestly wants to help folks, thats a cool thing. I still think he's just, indirectly, advancing the cause (TGM). :)

okie 09-11-2008 02:00 PM

Manzia!
 
What you resist...persists! If you want to learn about HOMER KELLEY'S The Golfing Machine THIS is the place to be. HK solved the puzzle and some people resent him for it! Go figure:confused1

Ironic that "The Stallion" is merely a Trojan horse made up from the wreckage of the vessel he himself has sailed in!

mrodock 09-11-2008 05:53 PM

My mom has given me better golf lessons than M-dog did in the 3 hours he had to work with me. He gave me the WORST lesson I have ever gotten by far, and I had to drive 20 hours to get it.

Smoke and mirrors.

pistol 09-11-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purehitter (Post 55802)
Lynn,

I just finished watching a video web show of an instructor who instead of covering the topics on the list was to bash the way homer wrote TGM and your instruction. I know there are going to be differences in TGM instruction Men will be Men but this is not the way it should be. I just want to say that you are the real deal and offer more about TGM with your web site than any of the so called Cesar’s or Napoleons of the golf instruction world and I just want to thank you again for it.

John W Rohan-Weaver G.S.E.M.

You may be interested to know John that your description of the pivot i.e you know the one you put up that the Cesar along with the cronies poured scorn on is now the greatest aka a face on clip of Sam Snead
Hypocrite seems impolite but appropriate

purehitter 09-11-2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pistol (Post 55822)
You may be interested to know John that your description of the pivot i.e you know the one you put up that the Cesar along with the cronies poured scorn on is now the greatest aka a face on clip of Sam Snead
Hypocrite seems impolite but appropriate

Here is the Smart Pivot I wrote in my book. This is what Sam and many great players of the past did. I have been teaching it for over twenty years and don't plan on stopping.

The Smart Pivot is the natural rotation from the hip sockets. For the human body to make a pure rotation from the hip sockets only one hip pivots and the other is passive. This would be the right hip socket for the right hand golfer.

If both hips are pivoting at the same time, the result is a twist (Chubby Checker). Most golfers are taught to twist today, as many golf instructors do not know how the body is designed to move. For the right-handed golfer on the back swing the right hip does the rotation while balancing the weight on the right leg. The left hip socket is passive.

The left heel lifts at the start of the back swing from the bending of the left knee (Knee Action) and the rotation of the right hip pivot. As the Smart Pivot continues the back swing pivot, the left foot rolls inward form the right hip rotation with the ball of the left foot only left in contact with the ground to help with balance at the top of the back swing. The same pivot action is used in the wind-up of a baseball pitcher but his left foot comes of the ground. The upper body rotates in a circle with the Smart Pivot of the right hip as if the upper body and lower body were fused.

The down swing of the smart pivot is still the rotation from the right hip socket. When you combine the rotation or the right hip, knee action and down swing momentum, the left foot returns to the ground and the Smart Pivot will have the look of an orthodox pivot you see with tour players. The Smart Pivot was the pivot used by great golfers of the past. Bill Mehlhorn taught this smart pivot to Sam Byrd and Sam is the only pro baseball player to have success on the PGA tour.

Today this once natural motion known to many has been replaced with a variation of hip twisting motions with weight moving all over the place taught as a pivot. It is not a pivot but an unbalanced twist. If you look very closely at Tiger, Jack and many of the great players of the past and present you will see this Smart Pivot. It has never left. It will always be present in all the great golfers because it is the correct way to pivot in the golf swing.

Augusta Golf 10-07-2008 12:12 PM

Tried to post this before but apparently it vanished. I attended TGM schools level I&II. I learned more in those two weeks than in 30 years of personal research and lessons. Joe presents the material in a professional manner and educational environment. If you want to be an A.I. it is worth the expense; however, that doesn't mean you cannot learn TGM concepts from great teachers like Lynn and Chuck.

As for the TGM family, we are all trying to teach Mr. Kelley's concepts- authorized or not, and we need to support each other in taking this information to the golfing world.

B. J. Hathaway

Jeff Evans 10-08-2008 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Augusta Golf (Post 56501)
Tried to post this before but apparently it vanished. I attended TGM schools level I&II. I learned more in those two weeks than in 30 years of personal research and lessons. Joe presents the material in a professional manner and educational environment. If you want to be an A.I. it is worth the expense; however, that doesn't mean you cannot learn TGM concepts from great teachers like Lynn and Chuck.

As for the TGM family, we are all trying to teach Mr. Kelley's concepts- authorized or not, and we need to support each other in taking this information to the golfing world.

B. J. Hathaway

Very well Stated!

chestnuts 10-09-2008 06:32 AM

it sure does Jeff, some people need to forget self and concentrate on student the only thing that counts in a lesson is the teachers knowledge and ability to communicate it in different ways to different people and the students ability to understand and absorb what is being said...

Nothing else matters.

well01 10-09-2008 09:57 AM

Does anyone know: Will the TGM schools basically be the same thing as going to one of Chuck Evans schools?


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