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The 'gnome's Secrets
We've played some practice rounds together. And, you have a routine that you use when mapping a green. How many details are you writing in the yardage book about the green complex, when you're stepping off the depth?
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recon!!!
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When I am preparing for a tournament I spend most of my time "mapping" the greens and a surrounding area of about 30 yards to include bunkers, swails, or anything else not seen from the fairway. There are several ways to do this but my procedure is as follows: 1. Either buy a yardage book of the course if it has a quality drawing of the green or go to google earth and print out pictures of the course and each green. You would be surprised what kind of detail you can get from this. Google earth will also give you an exact "true north" position for each hole. This is important for "grain" and wind direction. If neither of these is available I draw it as acurately as possible. 2. Once I have a green diagram, I pace the green depth front to back, side to side, and also diagonally if I feel I may be coming in from an odd angle such as par 5's or short par 4's. 3. As I am pacing these areas I also note distances to ridges, bunker edges, downslopes, etc, and place directional arrows on areas where there is significant slopes or run-off areas. 4. Once I have the green and surrounds complete I look for potential hole locations and mark those. Once I have these I create "go spots" and "no-go spots". When playing a tournament I often do not have the luxury of guessing. I need to know that I have a "green light" to a flag or not. I also make note of green "breaks", firmness, and pace. I try to play at least two practice rounds in order to become familiar with the course. I do not spend as much time mapping the course because most things are in front of you and I use a rangefinder. If I am not able to use a rangefinder then I spend more time mapping the course as well. Hope this helps. I would love to hear from some of the pro caddies out there to see what they do for their players. |
Google Earth Edge
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Question: what is the relationship between 'true north' and grain / wind direction? :clap: |
Jeff,
Wow, this is going to be a GREAT sub-forum. I am really looking forward to your insight on taking it to the course. Great first lesson! The next sub-forum you will have to start is time management. I don't know how you do it PRO! Thank You, Kevin |
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I use true north as a reference only. When the wind is coming from the West/Northwest I can mark it on each hole so the "swirls" do not confuse me. Also if you are playing in an area where everything breaks toward the ocean, or Indio, or whatever, I can always have that reference. For those who play on bermuda, grain is always an issue. The grain will typically grow toward the west (setting sun). Once again having a reference helps to eliminate doubt and is by no means an absolute. |
Interesting stuff Jeff. Keep it coming.
Do you think this is OTT for a normal weekend player? Or is it a case of having as much information as possible (good input good output etc) Alex |
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As far as a weekend player is concerned I think it is wise to know the "safe spot" on every approach, even if it is not on the green. Laying up or even knocking it over may not be a bad play, especially if that is the safe spot. |
Looking at the hole
I understand that looking at the hole, you will see one
side somewhat ragged and the other side clean cut. Bermuda Grass. Do to the way the hole cutter works, the cutter will tear, more than cut, on the rough side which is the way that the grain is growing. Do you have any experience with this. Donn |
reading Bermuda
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I've seen people that putt really well using that technique. But, I (personally) have not had as much success with that. The only way that I can putt on Bermuda is to do a 360 degree walk-around. |
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The Short Course -- Between the Ears
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These guys are good, and their golf playing skills go far beyond merely swinging the club. :salut: |
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The "Burnt Edge" . . .
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Cool! Thanks, Henny! :salut: |
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I use it as a reference for grain, but I prefer to rub the green for a truer test in areas where I anticipate pin placements. I often find grain following slopes and working towards water rather than going to the Southwest. When the slope goes to the Southwest, the grain can become very strong. I mark the grain in the book as a reference for wedges shots and full shots to help anticipate spin or skip. |
Great stuff guys.
What is 'Indio"? Hope I dont look too stupid here. Thanks OB |
Toronto SouthWest
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:sunny: http://www.golflink.com/golf-courses...?dest=Indio+ca Where all putts break toward Indio, or . . . Whatever! [Add Valley Girl accent.] :laughing9 |
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Thanks Yoda And I was just in Palm Springs for New Years. OMG. So this refers to reading the "lay of the land" in a mountainous area with a compass? Is that right? Google earth maybe for topographical maps? These guys are good and thorough too. Regards OB |
Lowering Your Score With . . . A Compass and Your Hand?
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Determining and marking grain to anticipate wedge shot "spin or skip" into the pin? Again . . . C'mon. Hats off, HennyB. Thanks! :salut: |
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Indio is down valley. World around you seems flat but is actually tilted slightly down valley. |
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Henny It occurs to me that your job description has gotten a lot longer of late. Adding surveyor to everything else you guys do. Wind reader, confidence whisperer etc etc etc etc etc. Good luck at the Hope if that is where you are at. And all the best for the coming season. OB |
Shiny/Dull
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When the sun is in front of me, the grass looks dull. Should I be looking at the grass from the side? |
what a great thread!
:salut: I thought I knew my home course! Turns out, I know Jack @##@!!!! |
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greens and sheens
Jeff
Since we are talking green reading, sheens etc . Do you have any thoughts in regards to sunglasses; polarized , non polarized, green, brown? Is there a trend on tour or is it a personal preference sort of deal. I have trouble wearing them but bright low light can make it hard to get a read sometimes. Almost as hard as hitting it where I am aiming but that is another story. Really enjoying your threads. OB |
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I do not know what is popular on tour but I would love to know if something is better. I do know that many players do not wear them to read greens or putt. Once again personal preference prevails. |
coke bottles
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scrips for greens
OAKLEY hands down
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