Anyone else feel that starting with R forearm on shaft plane feels bunched up?
 

I've been working on getting my right forearm in line with my club shaft for the past week. I'm not sure if i'm doing it correctly because i feel awfully bunched up at address. In addition, i'm standing up noticeably "taller", w/ less knee flex.

My right elbow is significantly flexed compared with my old setup. How should my left elbow be...flexed as well?

Is it supposed to feel bunched up at first?

Thanks

Video of me so you can see what i'm referring to...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y7Hn8bYCGc

(actually this was taken before adjusting my alignments some more....in the video, my forearm isn't perfectly parallel to shaft...now it feels more bunched up)

You don't have the right forearm on plane at address IMO. Slightly above. I think you probably need to stand a tad further away from the ball. Furthermore, *I* feel like I am bending that right elbow 'into my right hip joint.' It may also feel like you are bending it right into the right side of your abdomen. Here's a pic difference in my right forearm vs. your right forearm at address.






3JACK

Flat left wrist
 

I thought this may help you and others...not the expert here...the left wrist while flat at impact looks bent post impact...it should stay flat as the left forearm swivels up to plane. Many reasons may cause this....maybe we can get the smart guys to help us out here.:)

Lean and Mean
 

Set your Head directly between your feet. Without moving your Head at Address, slide your Hips to the left to create a little Axis Tilt. This will automatically lower your Right Shoulder and allow you to have more bend in your Right Arm, thus allowing you to establish your Right Forearm Flying Wedge. Don't do it artifically by just moving you head to the right. Right now you have too much spine lean to the left at Address.

Use a mirror or video to verify the alignments. Any time you make a change in you Geometry or Physics, expect a "different" sensation. If it doesn't feel "different", you haven't made a change. Want a "different" ball flight, then you better be doing something "different". Otherwise, we go back to the clinical definition of insanity...doing the same thing over and over, but expecting "different" results.

The depth of knowledge on this board by the followers of YODA never ceases to amaze me. I learn something EVERY day.

Thanks Drew,
Kevin

Thanks for your comments. They are greatly appreciated.

Pole ie
 

Stick with it ml249, this alone will be greatly beneficial to your game.

It may feel awkward at first but the adjustments you need to make to get there at address are also the adjustments you would need to do to get there at impact! If it feels so weird for you at address it implies to me that your body wont want to get there dynamically at impact, as it must.

In my first lesson with Lynn we spent a long portion of the morning working on just this. In fact it wasnt until after lunch that I finally had it right and Lynn remarked something like "well there you go, that took longer than usual but this alone will help you to achieve your goals in golf". (I wanted to shave a few strokes off my cap and move into the plus side of things). Im proud to say that Yoda was correct, as usual. In fact yesterday after a few days off and no time to warm up or practice, I shot a 66 at Story Creek on Vancouver Island. A majestic course cut through an old growth spruce forest with towering trees, deer everywhere and one gleaming, LBG member and G.O.L.F practitioner.

Ob

P.S. My thought for the day? The left hand must be LEVEL at Fix (as it will be at impact as it moves from cocked to fully uncocked)

O.B.,

Ya have to add up all the Strokes, not just the Putts! :laughing9

Congrats.............

Thanks D.

You have me there, I did add up the putts. 10 on the front nine. Scoring is easy when the darn ball goes in the hole all the time. I was picking one out of the hole, dropped it, it hit my foot and ran back into the hole. Weird.

Aligning the Right Forearm
 

Your inability to correctly position your Right Forearm does not lie in the Right Forearm or Elbow Bend. Instead, it is in the incorrect position of your Left Wrist. Your Left Wrist is Cocked, not Level. Then you attempt to put the Forearm in-line with the Clubshaft in its 'too low' Plane. Ain't gonna happen without the feeling you describe.

So, instead of attempting to align the Forearm with the Clubshaft, go at it the other way around. Set your Left Wrist Level -- thus raising the Clubshaft to a steeper Plane Angle -- and then, with minor adjustments in the #3 Accumulator Angle (Left Arm and Clubshaft) -- align the Clubshaft with the Forearm.

Model the Brian Gay photos I have published previously. Pay special attention to the Left Wrist alignment, and your Right Forearm worries will soon be a thing of the past.

:)

That may be the final piece of my right forearm puzzle as well.

Thanks Yoda! :salut:

Kevin

Thank you for all the comments and Yoda for his continued dedication to this forum.

I browsed through all the previous gallery pictures but have yet to find a good image of the left wrist at address. Most shots are taken from behind and I am unable to get a good view of what Yoda is referring to.

Could someone kindly point me in the right direction.

Thanks

ps. been working tons on basic motion (only) and while i feel this is very beneficial for the short game, during the transition to long game, i have been hitting quite a few full wedges fat. I did not have this problem before. Also, once in a very long while, i'll come into the basic motion with my hossel first. I'm probably coming across the line too much on the back swing. Has anyone else experienced these problems? Thanks :crybaby:

I have the alignment golf dvd and have been watching it over and over. I really want to ingrain Lynn's technique so that i have a reliable swing "that will serve me for a long time".

pps. Yoda, i've emailed you before about flying down to take lessons with you. I know you must be very busy. Is there another way i can get a hold of you? Thanks

I think i'm beginning to understand the level left wrist. I'm interpreting this as, level in relation to left base of thumb with no distortion (as opposed to the pinkie side). When positioning my left wrist in such a manner, i notice that my club does not lie flat on the ground with the toe down. If this is correct, do i need to get refitted to make my lie more upright?

Thanks

Level Left Wrist At Address
 

The Level Left Wrist is the mid-Wrist Condition between Cocked and Uncocked. It exists (in the perpendicular plane of motion) when a line from the first knuckle of the forefinger is in-line with the forearm.

The Level Left Wrist Conditon is best illustrated from a Down-the-Line view. That view is evident in my posted photo of BG's Address with the wedge at the '07 Honda.

Check it out.

:salut:

P.S. Re the private lessons: I'm definitely open for business from players at all levels. If I missed an inquiry, please accept my apology and hit that send button again to lynn@lynnblakegolf.com.

I can second that!
 

I've been working on this as well with basic motion and compressing the ball like never before. Music to the ears. Lynn you're the best! Also if any of you guys haven't purchased Alignment Golf yet what are you waiting for?

Enjoy The Open this week everyone!! Go BG!

Birdie Chance
Bronx, NY

:salut:

The light bulb is in this post. I was overly cocked with the left wrist, when I level it out the RF is much easier to get on plane. I took this pic, I think its closer, seeing the photo of BG really helped as well.

Just an update to my previous post, I had a lesson last night and my instructor stated that it was important that I have the proper fanning motion while taking the club back, basically I had very little fanning motion. I made the change with immediate improvement.

Very nice job gmbtempe. It looks and sounds as though you are on the path to some wonderful swing improvements. It's all here, we just have to pay attention! :salut:

Kevin

Sweetness!

Now you're looking like a G.O.L.F.er



3JACK

Lynn's reply
 

I've always assumed my left wrist was uncocked at address; it wasn't. I just uncocked it for the first time (consiously) and it opened up a whole new world of feel. My hands can now feel what the club shaft and head are doing. Amazing.