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dlam 06-13-2010 12:04 PM

level left wrist and uncocking
 
I guess it's save to assume that at impact the left wrist is level and uncocks post impact.

With accumulator #2 ,the uncocking of left wrist. is maximum velocity post impact at the uncocking left wrist?

Would it make more sense to get more distance by having left wrist fully uncocked at impact to increase swing speed?

Does anyone have a yellow book that defines accumulator #2 and best position at impact ie level, fully uncocked, partially uncocked?

KevCarter 06-13-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dlam (Post 73696)
I guess it's such to assume that at impact the left wrist is level and uncocks post impact.

With accumulator #2 ,the uncocking of left wrist. is maximum velocity post impact at the uncocking left wrist?

Would it make more sense to get more distance by having left wrist fully uncocked at impact to increase swing speed?

Does anyone have a yellow book that defines accumulator #2 and best position at impact exact level, fully uncocked, partially uncocked?

Maximum speed through the impact interval as the left wrist is moving from cocked to level to uncocked. Remember, impact is not a position!

Kevin


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8-10 SECTION 10 – IMPACT
This Section covers only the interval between Impact and Separation – the period of Ball Acceleration.

dlam 06-13-2010 12:36 PM

okay read some earlier posts on this subject. Seems the best example to describe Acc #2 is like hammering a nail. So maximum energy would be at level wrist, would be a bit silly to hammer the nail at fully cocked or uncocked position.(maybe that's why my nailing is never straight?)

dlam 06-13-2010 01:14 PM

Members, could you please tell me what your preferred release patterns are?

Is it snap or sweep? Is it automatic or nonautomatic.?

Daryl 06-13-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dlam (Post 73696)
I guess it's save to assume that at impact the left wrist is level and uncocks post impact.

With accumulator #2 ,the uncocking of left wrist. is maximum velocity post impact at the uncocking left wrist?

Would it make more sense to get more distance by having left wrist fully uncocked at impact to increase swing speed?

Does anyone have a yellow book that defines accumulator #2 and best position at impact ie level, fully uncocked, partially uncocked?

You want the Clubhead Accelerating through the Ball.

O.B.Left 06-13-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 73706)
You want the Clubhead Accelerating through the Ball.

I'd also say that you need to maintain the Rate of Acceleration. You can accelerate fast or you can accelerate slowly, that is the rate. To maintain the Rate is to maintain the same amount of lag pressure. A decrease in the Rate of Acceleration, though you may still be accelerating will see a corresponding decrease in the Lag Pressure at the #3pp.

Over acceleration "the menace that stalks all lag and drag", is the establishment of a Rate of Acceleration in Startdown that you cant maintain. Slow Startdown, steady acceleration and heavy is the way to go with the heavy representing lag pressure. It'll almost feel like the hands are not accelerating but they are, they have to.

The Endless Belt Analogy is an analogy only, showing the added speed associated with a small pulley wheel, late release.........hand speed can not be constant if you intend to have any lag pressure at the #3pp. It may feel like it but it cant be.

dlam 06-14-2010 12:48 AM

I propose that we reassign accum #2 to be right wrist cocking. This way we can even out the accumulators and assign 2 to each side of our body right and left.
Really, when the left wrist cocks the right wrist cocks the same amount assuming parallel hands

Who's on board?

Daryl 06-14-2010 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dlam (Post 73725)
I propose that we reassign accum #2 to be right wrist cocking. This way we can even out the accumulators and assign 2 to each side of our body right and left.

Who's on board?

That sounds like a really good idea. I'll make the call to the "Golfing Machine" headquarters and request the change. Maybe we can "even out" the Accumulators the following way:

Left Arm: #4......|.... Right Arm: #1
Left Wrist: #2....|.... Right Hand: #3

They finally called back and said that they're willing to make the above change, pending your approval. They liked the idea of assigning 2 accumulators to each side of the body.



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Originally Posted by dlam (Post 73725)
Really, when the left wrist cocks the right wrist cocks the same amount assuming parallel hands

No more drinks for you. :laughing9

dsandridge 06-14-2010 06:02 AM

when the left wrist cocks the right arm bends. there is no cocking of the right wrist

O.B.Left 06-14-2010 10:34 AM

During Tigers first round at the Memorial .......par 5 on the back nine.....11 maybe?.....he muffs a wedge shot and then in disgust does a curious right arm only motion. Like a karate chop combined with a tomahawk but diagonal and up to right shoulder high. What we'd call Right Forearm Pickup. BUT to my eye he added something. A little right hand cocking and uncocking.

Its in Hanks book Im told. But I dont think Homer done it this way.

innercityteacher 06-14-2010 12:20 PM

I am a non-automatic person.
 
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Originally Posted by dlam (Post 73701)
Members, could you please tell me what your preferred release patterns are?

Is it snap or sweep? Is it automatic or nonautomatic.?

And I sweep. Both help me maintain my balance as my front leg is shorter than my back leg.

May I recommend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVws0CQqTDc as an interesting starting point?


Patrick

dlam 06-14-2010 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dsandridge (Post 73729)
when the left wrist cocks the right arm bends. there is no cocking of the right wrist

How can there be no cocking of the right wrist? The right hand is located below the left hand. When the left hands cocks the shaft I presume that the right wrist is cocking too.
The only way the right hand is bending when the left hand is cocking is if the left hand is super strong grip and the left hand is super weak and no longer parallel to each other.

dlam 06-14-2010 11:30 PM

Hehe,

I thought "they" -the higher ups -would like the change.

Is it to late for the next edition of the TGM book?

golfguru 06-15-2010 03:28 AM

Make your Flying Wedge (no club required) including Extensor Action. Now bend your right arm a long way keeping the BRW level Have a look at the left wrist cock amount.

dlam 06-18-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by golfguru (Post 73765)
Make your Flying Wedge (no club required) including Extensor Action. Now bend your right arm a long way keeping the BRW level Have a look at the left wrist cock amount.


What is a level bent right wrist? Neither fully bent or unbent?

Burner 06-18-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dlam (Post 73846)
What is a level bent right wrist? Neither fully bent or unbent?

Hold your right arm straight out in front of you, parallel to the ground, fingers pointing away from you and align the top part of your thumb with your forearm. Bend your wrist to move your fingers so they point at 10 minutes past the hour.

Level and bent is the result.

dlam 06-20-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Burner (Post 73848)
Hold your right arm straight out in front of you, parallel to the ground, fingers pointing away from you and align the top part of your thumb with your forearm. Bend your wrist to move your fingers so they point at 10 minutes past the hour.

Level and bent is the result.



What's the rational for 10 minutes past hour position?
Is that the fully bent position? I presume 15 minute past the hour would be max bent position.

Burner 06-20-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dlam (Post 73874)
What's the rational for 10 minutes past hour position?
Is that the fully bent position? I presume 15 minute past the hour would be max bent position.

Just an illustration, no sorcery involved. Its around the bend limit for normal folk I suspect.
15 minutes past the hour would be approaching contortionist territory for an unassisted bend.

However, the amount of bend needed in practise is variable. It can, and should, be previewed at impact fix.


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