Johnny Miller Golf Swing Fundamentals
 

Hello,

Here is a video with Johnny Miller and his golf swing fundamentals. In chapter 2 he talks about impact. There is also chapter 3 and 4 on the youtube where he talks about the slice and the draw. What do you guys think about his fundamentals?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTWgui4Tjo

"The Club wants to go where it's supposed to". Johnny Miller

"I studied Impact so much, I feel as though I should have my Phd. in it." Johnny Miller

"The only way to move your weight is to move it over to the Left side." Johnny Miller

"Get it down to here, and then wooooooom through impact." Johnny Miller


Good stuff. I didn't watch the "Impact" Lesson because I don't want to get confused by too much technical information although I found his application of "Gravity" during the downswing very helpful.

Not everybody is fond of Miller:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFLLP...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ef9...eature=related

Is this criticism justified?

The guy won the US open, British Open and dominated golf from 1973-1976. I think you can disagree with him, but I think Johnny knows a little bit about the golf swing. He also worked with Ben Doyle and I have heard he has read The Golfing Machine. In the 1970's his game was something to watch, particularly the irons.

I know his credentials as a player, but at least this Wayne DeFrancesco (whoever that is) doesn't agree with some of his comments. Both can't be right, or? Does JM use Ben Doyle and TGM in his commentaries today?

After watching that I thought I had just left the dome with KevCarter.
It would be very interesting to actually listen to him talk about the Machine with Machine terminology.

Watching what?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTWgui4Tjo

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFLLP...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ef9...eature=related

You do not need to be a great player to teach. Players usually know a lot about their own games. I would look here rather than Johnny Miller for real help with the game.

I think that being a great player like Johnny Miller may be a detriment to teaching. Certainly, JM knows his swing and has tweaked it over a lifetime of exceptional play and hard work. He's one of the greatest golfers in my lifetime although I haven't yet seen Innercityteacher swing the club.

What we're seeing in JM's video explanations is "his version" (pattern). He uses some demonstration, but a lot of his presentation is the explanation of his "feelings" as most Pro's do.

Most of the comments made by Pro's need to be ran through a translation algorithm. Listen to their descriptions of their procedures and try and determine their alignments and force to understand the mechanics behind their feelings.

I wouldn't say that Johnny Miller was wrong about anything concerning his Golf Swing but his explanations aren't as effective in helping others understand as he thinks they are.


"Get it down to here, and then wooooooom through impact." Johnny Miller

I respect the simplicity of that. :laughing9 That's how I describe my swing. :laughing9

Hi Roger,

I disagree a little, although your premise is perfect.

I would talk to Johnny Miller about how to play the game.

I would come here to learn how to swing the club.

Not that there aren't folks here who can play, someone with the experience of Mr. Miller has ideas on the game that would be priceless....

Just another opinion my friend.

:salut:


Cheers,
Kevin

I'm sure Johnny Miller knows how to strike the ball. But I agree with Daryl here; He expresses his swing thoughts in a very feel based language. Not precise info exactly.

You need to be where he is, mentally, to grasp what he's saying. Or you need to have him watch you hit balls and then maybe he'll rephrase as soon as he sees that first message doesn't go home.

I think we are talking about the same thing. When I say great player I mean major champion level. My point is that Johnny Miller knows more about golf than most and is qualified and paid to say what he wants. However as far as learning to hit a golf ball I would rather go to Kevin Carter. I doubt Johnny would add much to my game. Kind of like getting Mario Andretti to teach someone how to drive a honda civic. Now when it turns into a ferrari, maybe Mario could add a little something. But Kevin would do much better on the foundation.

LOL

You always say that, then I end up learning more from you! :salut: Thanks Dodger,

Kevin

Go ahead, pick on a guy suffering from gout!
 

I'm becoming a vegetarian just so I can kick your but in April 3 days in a row instead of two!!!!! :laughing1

No more beer, red meat, wine, and Doritos. I'll be so angry by the time April rolls around that I'll demolish you for a cheeseburger and never even notice we had a match! :golfcart:

YBGF

Easy does it, Teach. Pace yourself.
Be sure to just practice those alignments and "Roll" the ball to the hole.

Yada Yada Yada

You couldn't beat me if you pulled a "Rocky" for 6 months. No more beer, red meat, wine, and Doritos.

I betcha that going to Lynn will get me a lot closer to beating you!
 

Hell, I'm going to get a lesson from somebody in April, Master's allowing, and then I'm going to my Grinnell College 30th Reunion, renting a car, driving to MN, for awhile and then down to Bollingbrook, IL D! You can abuse me but you cannot hide! I am going to miss the Doritos, though! :eyes:


YBGF