2-F-7-C Bobbing
 

Bobbing mentions the faulty movement of the back.
What is the faulty movement of the back?

On his Golf Channel video Yoda talks about the centred, stationary head may swivel, but must not sway or bob. So my understanding is that the back must not change its forward leaning spine position in the backstroke & downstroke in such a way that bobbing occurs.

I am curious why the bobbing of the head on the downswing is a big deal to playing high level exceptional golf. Watching most of the great players of all time on the down swing their head lowers as the body seems to compress into the ground. Tiger and Hogan did it considerably. You wont find many that dont drop it down to some degrees in the downswing.

backswing I agree that you want no bobbing.

I think its a big thing for us club players. We don't have the talent or the time to groove and learn the compensations that are needed. You have to remember El Tigre and Ben Hogan have spent hours upon hours on the practise tee hitting ball after ball.
We are trying to learn the uncompensated stroke with TGM and the less compensations you have the better your swing and your golf will be.
Alex

It could be that transitioning to the Elbow Plane from the Top of their Swings needs a very strong Downward Thrust, then Outward. Downward then Outward in a sequenced kind of way. Whereas, while Swinging on the TSP we need a Force (Right Shoulder) that's Downward on Plane; Down and Out Simultaneously.

I tend to agree with this, the bigger the shift the more of a drop, though even Phil compresses downward and he is on the TSP.

I guess the guy I think of with the least of a name player is Stricker....which makes me think it could be related to power.

Helping
 

Thanks you all for your coments. I was trying to help
a fellow gowing to Q School. He is concerned about his
head moving down on the downswing. I don't see it as a big
problem but the guy wants to be perfect.
Donn

Heading in the right direction
 

Go to Impact Fix. Wherever your head is keep it there and return to your Adjusted Address.
Save the Bobbing for Apples :pumpkin: .

Don . . . check your buddy's neck/head at address . . . imagine he's got laser beams shooting out of his eyes . . . where would the laser shoot if it were coming straight out of his eye sockets? Good chance that he needs to tilt his head down. He could be making that move so he can see the ball.

The "adding waist bend" can be a geometric problem because it can be a disruption of the "radius" . . . if his head is lowering there are implications in the orbit of the club and some sort of compensation will manifest it self . . . raising up . . . bending left wrist . . . bending the left elbow . . . could be anything.

Look at Adam Scott's address . . . his teach has for sure told him to "keep his spine straight" . . . look at where his eyeball laser would be shooting at adress vs. four frames back from the last frame . . . clearly he has tilted his chin down . . . look at the bill of his cap in the sequence . . it moves down that telephone pole in the back. You can't hit what you can't see.

Adam Scott
 

Bucket, Thank a lot for the advice and pictures.
I will certainly follow up. Donn

Here's Lookin' At You, Kid
 

Happily, this is not a recent sequence. Saw Adam at Doral this spring, and he's DEFINITELY changed his Head position at Address. He's now looking at the ball. Also, his Start Up is On Plane (and not 'outside'). Yay!

:golfcart2:

Agree . . . much much better now . . . Butchy teaches that head up stuff . . . ain't no good IMO.

http://speedcathollydale.files.wordp...lbis-swing.jpg


Here's a swing sequence of a known bobber.

Natalie's cervical spine and left scapula stays very level despite lowering the top of her head.
Use the red flag in the driving range as a stationary reference point.
She does move her head up and down during the swing but the overall integrity of her upper spine and left shoulder remains level.

In a book where everything is important, it is amazing how 3-F-7-C makes an immediate improvement to any golf swing. A couple of rounds ago I found my contact on fairway woods and iron shots thin, with little compression. I moved those laser beams down at the ball, feeling a lot more head tilt. Next six holes, not one mishit shot. I recently tried more right hip clearing to trigger the backswing. My head bobbed, moving to the right and back to the heels as I turned my right hip. If I clear the right hip while my head stays in its address position, it is extremely difficult to hit a bad shot. Kevin Carter got me to pre-clear that right hip, never really clicked until I realized the head was moving with the right hip. Try it, turn the right hip while your head is against a door jamb, right between feet. Don't move it at all while the right hip clears. First you will notice the hip doesn't turn as much, due to flexibility issues and also you will note that the power package moves back, in and up. No out and over-rotation of the LFW like Mr. Scott exhibits above. My irons are going 15 yards farther, I am drooling like Brett Favre when I come to a par three.