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directional control and pressure points
I know this sounds crazy and bit too elementary but I have associated pressure points to directional control of the clubface, clubshaft and clubhead.
For me Directional Clubhead control is via P4 and P2 Directional Clubface control is P1 Directional Clubshaft control is P3. This directional control is to describe the forward swing only. |
DLam,
I think HK concluded almost opposite. Clubface control - left hand, clubhead control - right hand. Although I don't think this is all black and white since you will have better control on both parameters with two hands on the club. But nevertheless I would say that as a guideline it works 100% most of the time. |
Yes, I think it maybe that I prefer the left arm wedge as a way to control the clubhead. My preference is to combine that with either a square or turned shoulder plane.
The right forearm wedge being along the plane with the clubshaft doesn't work on a consistent basis with me. It does work for a lot other golfers.but not me |
Very few good players have their right forearm on the inclined plane at address. IMO you can achieve more lag, more lag pressure and a longer distance from impact to both arms straight if you address the ball with lower hands.
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Hands At Address -- Impact Height Or Lower?
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You say the On Plane Right Forearm Wedge "doesn't work" for you. Are you absolutely sure you are doing it correctly? Have you worked with a competent professional who understands the necessary integrated alignments of Body, Arms and Hands? Or, is this as I suspect, merely a "do it yourself" project? My point is, don't blame the alignments when the fault may well be your own misapplication. On the other hand, you may be using the Turning Shoulder Plane ("straight back / straight through"). In which case, the Arms will 'hang' and point well inside the Baseline; then, swing back-and-through parallel to it. Or, you may be using the Squared Shoulder Plane you mentioned above. In which case, an On Plane Right Forearm at address -- while possible -- feels and appears 'ungolflike'. Quote:
If "lower hands" at address works for you, then by all means, go for it! :salut: But, a question . . . Will your hands also be "lower" at impact? Or, will they be higher (than at address)? If so, then how much higher will they be? And, if they are higher -- and they almost certainly are -- then how does going from "lower" hands at address to higher hands at impact translate into "more lag, more lag pressure and a longer distance from impact to both arms straight". :confused1 |
I had low hands at address for decades. For full shots they'd get up higher by Impact but I could never figure out why my little chip shots always felt sort of muffled. Something that went away immediately when I got my arms set properly at Address. There simply wasnt enough time to raise the low hands during a little chip shot and therefor no Right Forearm Flying Wedge.
The Right Forearm Flying Wedge.........you can take that dang thing away from me but it will be from my cold dead, educated hands. |
Lessons Learned . . . Rewards Earned
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Our first meeting six years ago in Orlando at Orange County National. Later, at the original 'Swamp', the Marietta (Georgia) Golf Center. Then, more Swamp time and Augusta -- The Masters! -- with Brother John, who has since become a mainstay in our sessions. Not to mention . . . Boatloads of fun with our group at Atlanta Country Club. Later . . . Cuscowilla, in Eatonton, Georgia, the 'new' Swamp. And, your invite to work three days with your group in Toronto at Glen Abbey. Then, this winter upon my return from Hawaii and the SBS and Sony, at St. Simons Island, Georgia. The last, again with brother John, at St. Andrews this year and The Open Championship. Thank you for your friendship, James. And, for your golfing passion and commitment to excellence. It has been my honor and privilege to have been included in your personal journey. Meanwhile . . . Spring comes, and more good times await. See you soon! :salut: |
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The answer to your lag pressure question is best described as different use of Accumulator #4. Accumulator #4 has a horizontal and a vertical component. The vertical is probably the same but I have a lot more left of the horizontal part of A #4 lag through impact. Not releasing as much A#4 before impact keeps the pivot more actively engaged. For me anywah. The feet are also working harder and I feel much more ground pressure through the ball. There's just more brute force through the ball and that gives a bigger error margin in more ways than one. The impact alignment I have would make up for a very uncomfortable literal impact fix position, so that is out of the question. The right forearm is btw on the clubshaft plane at impact. The Right Shoulder is further away from the ball at impact than at address. Slightly more turned perhaps but certainly more tilted. Therefore I need some slack between the Right shoulder and ball at address. Thus the lower hands. PS: I have nothing against level wrists address. But I basically think the address position should support the down stroke and not the other way around. In my case there was clearly an alignment conflict with level wrists address and the pivot driven down stroke that I have in me. |
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The set up using a level left wrist and right forearm on plane was the final nail in the coffin for my 5 year struggle with the chip yips! Even my dumb hands can get an education with addition of a solid structure. :salut: Kevin |
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Thank you KevCarter,
I appreciate your moral support. Based on my own experience I would say that a stroke based on level wrists address position is inferior to what I currently do. The geometry may look better to a TGM eye but the physics on the inside is a lot less stable, strong and reliable. What I currently do enables me to sustain lag pressure much longer. Level wrists address is to me a receipt for getting disconnected in the down stroke. And now that I've lived without it for a few months I can't do it anymore. I have had quite a few rounds with good ball striking lately. A few weeks ago I hit 17 GIR's. The one I missed was only 10 feet away from the flag. I was going for a corner flag location. Unfortunately I had left the putter home so I didn't shoot in the low 70's as I should have. But the stroke pattern itself is good enough for par golf. TGM is supposed to be about alignments as opposed to positions. But since we assess each others swings looking at pictures and movie frames we tend to fall into the position trap ever so often. But it is what goes on on the inside that really counts. I am rather convinced that different golfers with different bodies need different swing geometries to maximise their ability to create and sustain lag pressure through impact. Differences that goes beyond preferences and compensations. Different golf strokes for different golf folks. |
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clubshaft moves linearly and circular and in a twisting torque fashion. clubshaft rotation and clubhead rotation affects clubface angle. Not mutual exclusion. |
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I spoke to Yoda a week or so ago about "level" left wrist and i did not quite do it correctly after speaking with him. Then last week I practiced (egads!) and truly got level and viola I could drag the wet mop!
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The shaft moves forward and around my body and the clubhead rotates counterclockwise through impact. So an upward hinge left wrist is especially essential in the backswing. |
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I get left thumbitis.....I tend to downhinge/arch my left wrist with my left thumb by pressing my thumb straight down. This is great for a putt or some chip shots but bad for the full swing. My left thumb competes against the accumulator for P3. Once i could feel a level left wrist by either loosen my left thumb and/or tighten my last three fingers (P3) my swing got better. Thanks all. |
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point the left forefinger out as if you were pointing. the forefinger would be in line with the forearm. This would be level left wrist and support the max load you can muster with the club |
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