Rickie Or Rory?
 

As we all now know, Rickie Fowler -- winless in 2010 -- was voted by the players as PGA TOUR Rookie of the Year. Rory McIlroy, with a win at Quail Hollow and T-3 at two majors, was not. [However, Rory will receive the Golf Digest vote in their February 2011 issue.]

Did Rickie deserve the award? If so, why? Or, should the honor have gone to Rory? If so, why didn't it happen? Could his decision to reject a 2011 PGA TOUR card and instead play the European Tour have been a factor? Was he somehow not considered a "real" rookie -- even though, at 21, he's younger than Rickie -- because of his prior play on the European Tour (and perhaps even the PGA TOUR)?

Let's settle back, kick this around a bit and have some fun. What do you guys think?

:golf:

When it comes to the PGA Tour and the USGA, for that matter, I expect very little. The PGA's incessant marketing and drive for more and more money just plain turns me off. I suspect that goes for the general public if one looks at some of the numbers in attendance recently.
The USGA slept while the equipment companies wreaked havoc on the game.
Now I will take a good brisk sit and see the responses to what some may deem my outlandish remarks.

I would have thought that Rory McIlroy with his PGA win should have been the rookie of the year.

Rory shoulda won it. Maybe they also didn't like him calling out tiger at the Ryder Cup?

"The Rest of the Rory'
 

Rory
Scoring Average on the PGA Tour 70.35
Money won/event $159,642
One win, five top 10’s
11th World Ranking
36th Fed Cup Standings

Ricky
Scoring Average on the PGA Tour 70.43
Money won/event $102,039
zero wins, seven top 10’s
28th World Ranking
32nd FedEx Cup Standings

As "voted by the players" kind of says it all. They should have an impartial independent and unbiassed entity determine the outcome. Say The Golf Channel for instance given their recent success with the Search.

"And the 2010 Rookie of the Year goes to............ Frank Nobilo..... naw he's a foreigner ....Brandel Chamblee ladies and gentlemen".

Rory in my book.

I was thinking along these lines myself, but since I also
am an European, I didn't mention it.

Rory played less events as well - He also played a lot in Europe - and never the less earned more price money than Rickie.

Airair, Im canadian so I can switch teams with ease. Ah something about that doesnt sound quite right? Not sure what.

As much as I loved Seve I used to cheer for the US in those old Ryder Cups. Now Mike Weir plays for the other side in the Presidents Cup which has me all confused. Who do the Euro's cheer for in that one?

I think most Europeans cheer on the international team, but I may be wrong. Did you think Sweden was outside Europe too? That's our neighbor country in the east.
What island are you talking about?

I think Puma is very happy with the outcome:eyes:

Air, I deleted that part thinking it to not be funny which was my only motivation. You can keep Hans island. Come to think of it maybe it was Denmark that tried that one. Where's BerntR gonna ask him. Watch your islands when that guy is around.

Should have been Rory hands down. A win in your rookie season should seal Rookie of the Year awards really.
Just sounds a bit like self protection on the PGA Tour side. Its happened before with other players. Now if it was a US player with Rory's record they would have won it correct?
Alex

Aye Alex.

Missed you at the Open. Scotland now there's a great great country in Europe. They'd never steal one of your islands .....they're too cheap to steal one your islands .....that'd take a lot of petrol. Nice people too. Love the Tennants Ice Cold.

Any other foreigners around here looking for a tongue lashing? Come on.

I have never heard of this Island. But you are thinking of Denmark, not Norway. But in case you are interested - both Greenland and Iceland were Norwegian until 1814, when Denmark got them by a mistake when Denmark and Norway split up and Norway was given to Sweden (until 1905) as a result of the Napoleon War.

I'll Be Home At Islay
 

Save Islay (pronounced I-La http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...7/7a/Islay.ogg) for me!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islay

Especially, that precious little wedge shot strip encompassing the distilleries of Laphroaig (prounced La-Froig / approximately!) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../Laphroaig.ogghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laphroaig and Lagavulin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagavulin_Single_Malt!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Laphroaig.jpg

http://www.scotchwhisky.com/focus/lagavulin.htm

http://www.armin-grewe.com/islay/isl...-panoramas.htm

:eyes:

Airair, I didnt know you guys had split , sorry to hear that. So how'd you get away from the tyranny of the Swedes? I guess there's a long history of island thievery with you guys , eh?

Im gonna stop this now before one of my Swedish hockey buddies comes over here and gives me a knuckle sandwich......probably with a side of swedish meatballs too of course. $1.99 at Ikea. Which is Swedish for "out of stock", by the way.

Fellow foreigners (and the Dutch, the people of our ex nanny).....Merry Christmas and may there be Peace on this good earth.

Cheers
 

Now you're talking.:drool:

My friends, I had not intended to discuss this controversial subject at this particular time. However, I want you to know that I do not shun controversy. On the contrary, I will take a stand on any issue at any time, regardless of how fraught with controversy it might be. You have asked me how I feel about whiskey. All right, here is how I feel about whiskey:

If when you say whiskey you mean the devil's brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster, that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean the evil drink that topples the Christian man and woman from the pinnacle of righteous, gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, and despair, and shame and helplessness, and hopelessness, then certainly I am against it.

But, if when you say whiskey you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and laughter on their lips, and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer; if you mean the stimulating drink that puts the spring in the old gentleman's step on a frosty, crispy morning; if you mean the drink which enables a man to magnify his joy, and his happiness, and to forget, if only for a little while, life's great tragedies, and heartaches, and sorrows; if you mean that drink, the sale of which pours into our treasuries untold millions of dollars, which are used to provide tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitiful aged and infirm; to build highways and hospitals and schools, then certainly I am for it.

This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. I will not compromise.

We outsmarted them diplomaticly. But there was some danger of war, but the Swedes found out that is wasn't worth it, so they let us go in peace. We have been sort of friends since (and almost speak the same language).That goes for the Danes as well, but they talk funny - like they have a warm potao in their throat.

A warm potato? I got nothing. I fold. Wait.....

Whats up with the Finns? Always kinda depressed and drinking all night ....which is about 20 hours long. Did one of you guys steal one of their islands?

They have their own language - related to that of the Hungarians. Nobody understands a thing they say. Less than 10% (and sinking) of the Finns speak Swedish , so we have to speak English to them. But they are always angry and drunk, so I try to avoid them..

Darn Fiins good hockey players though so that's got to count for something. And I used to order white Russians for my girl friend when I was about 16. So working our way south what the heck is up with the Dutch?

Don't worry Australia we'll get to your foreign butt in due course. England too if you wankers are still conscious .

All I know about the Dutch is that they speak their language much the same way as the Danes speak theirs. And they love tulips, wooden shoes and wind mills. Enough said. But they have good speed skaters. That has always been of interest for me. Even 20 years before the days of Eric Heiden (wun all 5 gold medals in the Olympic Games in Lake Placid 1980 - but you probably knew that?)

Burner, shall we?
 

Let's start a ruckus, shall we?

I take my Single Malt with a glass of ice. I enjoy tasting the various flavor combinations that are formed with the melting ice. You?

BTW, it's Rory, for all the right reasons of winning, finishing more consistently, and playing on a wider stage.

ICT

Not many here seem to agree with giving the honour to Rickie. Do they just count up the votes given?

Stop buttin in City, we're trashing the whole foreign world here........we'll get to Italy just you wait. And if Im not mistaken philadelphia is kinda foreign too. If I recall correctly. Cheese and steak in one sandwich? Thats a foreign concept to my poutine lovin ass. I aint gonna diss my quebec brothers here, believe me.........I only look stupid ......what the heck , french fries inside a hot dog bun? Its not bad actually. Multi tasking.

Though I like Rickie , it obviously shoulda been Rory. But thats the way it goes.

"Why cant we live together?" Timmy Thomas

"Rookie of the Year" should go to Innercityteacher.

He's worked harder and played more G.O.L.F. than either one of them and he posted 2.64 times per day with some of them competing in "Short Stories" Digest.

I know more about Innercityteacher than I know about my Secretary and she's been with me for 12 years (She's Married and has a dog and cat).

Since Ricky got it, it must mean that Rory is still regarded as a European player. I can live with that.

PS: When Norway was liberated from Sweden there was a little battle in Halden - a city close to the border. The swedish king was against an independant Norway. He died on the battle field. The historians are unable to establish whether the bullet was Swedish or Norwegian.

Thanks BerntR , I suspect the Norwegians .... you know what they're like. Darn foreigners. Or maybe the Dutch? Hmmm..


I have a feeling this Rory guy is going to be around for a long long time. Maybe Ricky will too........hope so. Dont like all that orange though...

Hmm. You are messing up my history lessons from earlier today. This has nothing to do with the independence of 1905. This is from 1718 - one of the many wars between Sweden and Denmark/Norway. Long before Norway went from a union with Denmark to a union with Sweden in 1814, which ended in 1905 without any shooting what so ever.

http://lokalhistoriewiki.no/index.ph...ksten_festning

Two LBG Rookies of the Year
 

Okay, Daryl, we may need a 'judges' decision' on this one.

No question, InnerCity is the hands down leader in the Length-of-Posts category. Air, on the other hand, is miles ahead in the Number of Posts category (4.38 per day).

It appears we need two awards: Posting Average Actual and Posting Average Adjusted. This division -- where each post is weighted according to its length -- has a precedent. Namely, the PGA TOUR, which has two measurements for Scoring Average (Actual and Adjusted).

Hey, a second trophy doesn't cost that much. I'm for giving both!

:laughing9

4.38 Posts per day and that includes hardly anything while he was taking a vacation. Whoa.......:)

Well, .....ICT has two dogs... How many pets does Air own? :laughing9

I will gladly yield to my learned friend.

Ya have 4.38 posts per day. You don't get off the Hook that easily. :)

I'm touched.....
 

I'd like to thank the Academy...

How about a "working" category and a " retired" category? Maybe a "teaching" category, an "experimental" category, and a "chatting" category?

In any case, I'm honored to be in such considered company. :)


ICT

Middle Man
 

Not that I'm insecure or anything -- :confused1 -- but I just checked my own post count. At 3.99 per day (over six years beginning 2005) and 8,656 total, it seems I strike the middle ground between InnerCity and Air.

Good company!

:laughing9

Ah, guys.......The Golf Channel has just awarded Poster of the Year on LBG to ..... Kelly Tilghman.

Thought you'd wanna know that. Sorry.

If you had to teach the students I have, Lynn...
 

....You'd have doubled and trebled your total! :)

My final GHIN was 10.1 this year. My goal was single digits. I'll start next March knowing where THE GOLF MACHINE lives, in the Finish Swivel! I lost 11 strokes not understanding the essential nature of the Throw and the Finish Swivel! And, as I confessed to Jerry, Kevin, and Daryl, putting like a moron.

And then, with God's help, I'll be seeing you and others in April. :eyes:


If I don't get to a par hcp. by the next August, it will be strange, imho.

Thanks to everyone for all the support!

ICT