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300Drive 05-10-2005 10:45 AM

Hogan, A Swinger.....Wished He had 3 Right Hands......
 
This is a question about the role of the right hand for swingers, manipulated swingers to be exact. Hogan was a swinger, BUT, wished he had 3 right hands (thats what HE felt).

What is the role, if any, of the right hand for swingers, particularly as it relates to hinging and swivel? I know the "pure" response would say the left arm controls hinging actions, however, for manipulated swingers (90% of swingers), how do they use there right hand/arm in "squaring the club", or executing the desired hinge action?

Thanks.

EdZ 05-10-2005 11:28 AM

This is an interesting quote from Hogan, because it isn't really the 'hand' that he used, but his right side, and his right FOREARM

- a power move (clubhead control - loading action) rather than a hinge action (clubface control) IMO.

The more power, the more CF could take over from impact to separation - the more 'support' there was for impact from the right side of the triangle

300Drive 05-10-2005 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdZ
This is an interesting quote from Hogan, because it isn't really the 'hand' that he used, but his right side, and his right FOREARM

- a power move (clubhead control - loading action) rather than a hinge action (clubface control) IMO.

The more power, the more CF could take over from impact to separation - the more 'support' there was for impact from the right side of the triangle

I hear you Edz, but, I think Hogan represented his feeling BEST as it relates to what he was feeling and doing with HIS swing. He felt he could benefit from utilizing his right hand, and even felt he could benefit from three of them (probably overexaggerated, but, he made his point). Clearly he was a swinger, and clearly he used his right hand for something........, and that something was an action through the ball.

Maybe it was just a power move (thrust), maybe it was squaring the head via rotation, but, by his words, it didnt seem to be a passive, supporting role.

EdZ 05-10-2005 04:33 PM

True, I didn't mean to imply that it was passive, just that it was 'power' related and not 'accuracy' related. Personally I can relate to the 'feels' of a right arm thrust AND a left hand roll, even when using CF.

Hit that ball as hard as you can with BOTH hands..... :wink:

300Drive 05-11-2005 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdZ

Hit that ball as hard as you can with BOTH hands..... :wink:

Yup

When I rely just on my left arm, its almost always a fade. When I "feel" both arms working, I can execute any hinge action better, and with more distance.

brianmanzella 05-12-2005 10:06 AM

Trevino told ME he pulled as hard as he could with his left hand.

EdZ 05-12-2005 10:14 AM

No suprise there, given his grip he sure had to do that.

Theodan 05-12-2005 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianmanzella
Trevino told ME he pulled as hard as he could with his left hand.

Did he recruit his right arm/hand at any point in the swing?

Charlie

Trig 05-12-2005 11:36 AM

Interesting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brianmanzella
Trevino told ME he pulled as hard as he could with his left hand.

I remember seeing him on a video clip talking about DRIVING the right arm through.....maybe he did both? :shock:

powerdraw 05-26-2005 08:12 PM

i always thought of trevino as a hitter

Yoda 05-26-2005 10:41 PM

Feelings
 
Trevino has always described himself as a 'Blocker.'

He drives his Right Arm (through the #1 Pressure Point) against the 'No Roll' or even 'Reverse Roll' Feel of the Left Arm Flying Wedge.

12 piece bucket 05-26-2005 10:58 PM

Re: Feelings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
Trevino has always described himself as a 'Blocker.'

He drives his Right Arm (through the #1 Pressure Point) against the 'No Roll' or even 'Reverse Roll' Feel of the Left Arm Flying Wedge.

Yoda,

I think Lee Buck now draws it more than back in his heyday. Would he now have more "Roll" in is game than in what people characterize as his "fading" days? Or does he use other adjustments to draw it from his 10-2-D Grip?

This is interesting to me because I'm boarderline 10-2-D and I'm considering moving to 10-2-B. I Hit and draw it BUT sometimes the draw becomes a snipe. ZOINKS!!!

Also, is Lee Buck top 3 or higher in your opinion on ball-striking? His alignments even today are AMAZING!!!

Thanks!

B

brianmanzella 05-27-2005 01:02 AM

The point I was trying to make is.....

TREVINO thought he pulled....we KNOW his pushed (Lynn is right, of course).

But.....If you exlained it to Trevino.....would he have been better?

?

12 piece bucket 05-27-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianmanzella
The point I was trying to make is.....

TREVINO thought he pulled....we KNOW his pushed (Lynn is right, of course).

But.....If you exlained it to Trevino.....would he have been better?

?

My gut says no. Heck he may not have even understood it or wanted to for that matter.

brianmanzella 05-27-2005 03:33 PM

Like Lynn likes to say Homer said:

Kee-rect!


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