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BerntR 09-11-2009 12:59 PM

Something to learn from this foot & knee action?
 
I have been puzzled by some foot & knee action discussions lately. Personally I need to have the feet pointing more forward than normal to keep the lag pressure till impact.

But here's a video of the world's best javellin thrower. Watch his footwork. By TGM terms, javellin throwing is a hitting exersice. He has a classic foot angle in the back swing but a much more forward foot angle by the time of the release.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxPt2ZeDi04

Maybe I have too much flexibility, but I feel that a square foot position makes it difficult to maintain the forward press that is required to stay with the lag pressure until the ball is gone.

Yoda 09-11-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 67631)
I have been puzzled by some foot & knee action discussions lately. Personally I need to have the feet pointing more forward than normal to keep the lag pressure till impact.

But here's a video of the world's best javellin thrower. Watch his footwork. By TGM terms, javellin throwing is a hitting exersice. He has a classic foot angle in the back swing but a much more forward foot angle by the time of the release.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxPt2ZeDi04

Maybe I have too much flexibility, but I feel that a square foot position makes it difficult to maintain the forward press that is required to stay with the lag pressure until the ball is gone.

Bernt,

Homer Kelley advised in 2-F (Plane of Motion) to "picture the javelin thrower with the right elbow and On Plane right forearm leading the hand toward the target (Delivery Line) all during Delivery." And now, thanks to you, we have that crystal-clear picture presented to us in a world-class performance. Picture a humble LBG 'tip of the cap' to you.

:salut:

Homer's admonition was with respect to the right forearm and its plane of motion. Clearly, the javelin thrower's plane is vertical (whereas the golfer's is inclined). You are referencing the Pivot, specifically, the left foot. And here, with this Component #17 and its support of the rotational Pivot Motion, Homer was clear:

"It is better to turn on one's heel than to roll excessively." (7-17).

I respect your professional playing abilities and personal insights. More on this subject . . . please!

BerntR 09-12-2009 04:23 AM

I am not sure if I deserve your fine compliments, Yoda, but therefore I appreciate it more.:)

Annyway, here's a discus throwing video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEW1ZsSCVHE

The discus throwers work on an inclined plane as we do. Not sure how similar it is to ours though. Probably flatter and perhaps with a strong inside-out orientation compared to the target line. Fascinating to see how they drive their hips forward to optimize their alignment the last instance before they drive it home. There also seems to be a lot of float loading of the primary (and only) lever going on.

O.B.Left 09-12-2009 08:10 PM

Bernt

It was probably one of my posts that puzzled you, they often have that effect on me as well.

In regard to the position of the left foot, there is no one right way. Some of us stand with a our feet turned in, some of us with them turned out, one turned in the other not etc etc. As such, I believe we should have our feet aligned in a manner consistent with our swing objectives and our unique flexibility. For most people this would be a turn of the left foot away from the line, to a degree that allows them the freedom of movement and stability they require.

I had never read Homer's advice in this regard before. Its very good, again and about as concise as it can get.

hg 09-12-2009 10:45 PM

Homer Kelley advised in 2-F (Plane of Motion) to "picture the javelin thrower with the right elbow and On Plane right forearm leading the hand toward the target (Delivery Line) all during Delivery."

What is Elk practicing here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2566-fwmXQ&NR=1

BurleyGolf 09-12-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hg (Post 67657)
Homer Kelley advised in 2-F (Plane of Motion) to "picture the javelin thrower with the right elbow and On Plane right forearm leading the hand toward the target (Delivery Line) all during Delivery."

What is Elk practicing here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2566-fwmXQ&NR=1

Elk is working on the Moegan.. He has been working with Sevam1 since around the British Open.

BurleyGolf-

O.B.Left 09-12-2009 11:42 PM

Say what? That is like hearing that Els has been working with Daryl since the British Open. The world wide web has some strange transformative powers. Any tour pros who would like my phone number please pm me.

BurleyGolf 09-12-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 67659)
Say what? That is like hearing that Els has been working with Daryl since the British Open. The world wide web has some strange transformative powers. Any tour pros who would like my phone number please pm me.

Elk still works off Tgm principles, and Sevam1 studies TGM on his own. It will be interesting to see what the final product is, I know his diving stats improved from like 160 something to 28th that shows something. I can see the Moegan in that video of Elk.

BurleyGolf-

KevCarter 09-13-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BurleyGolf (Post 67660)
Elk still works off Tgm principles, and Sevam1 studies TGM on his own. It will be interesting to see what the final product is, I know his diving stats improved from like 160 something to 28th that shows something. I can see the Moegan in that video of Elk.

BurleyGolf-

I enjoy Mikes work, and I'm looking forward to speaking with him about TGM. I knew he would develop an interest in the GOOD stuff!

Kevin

hg 09-13-2009 12:13 PM

Moegan...a little of Moe Norman and Ben Hogan...which parts?


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