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lagster 12-19-2007 12:53 AM
Flight Laws
 
Remember the old Ball Flight Laws, by Gary Wiren? One of them had to do with the Path and Face. It goes something like this...THE INITIAL DIRECTION THE BALL TAKES OFF IN IS A RESULT OF THE PATH, AND THE EVENTUAL CURVE OF THE BALL IS A RESULT OF THE CLUBFACE AT IMPACT.

How true do you think this is? If the face is open or closed enough... will the face over-ride the path?

The book says in 3-F-7-A... to "Depend on Clubface alignment for direction control."

What do you think?

mark 12-19-2007 06:25 AM
Hi Lagster, I f believe that the ball flys where the club face is pointing , but if you change the plane line ie direction lets say a open open plane and stance line, this would then produce a clockwise spin on the ball which would produce a slice with the clubface open. the british Pga used to teach that path controlled the ball direction then the clubface, but they changed that to the clubface.

12 piece bucket 12-19-2007 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagster (Post 47067)
Remember the old Ball Flight Laws, by Gary Wiren? One of them had to do with the Path and Face. It goes something like this...THE INITIAL DIRECTION THE BALL TAKES OFF IN IS A RESULT OF THE PATH, AND THE EVENTUAL CURVE OF THE BALL IS A RESULT OF THE CLUBFACE AT IMPACT.

How true do you think this is? If the face is open or closed enough... will the face over-ride the path?

The book says in 3-F-7-A... to "Depend on Clubface alignment for direction control."

What do you think?

Divergence . . . . . . .

bts 12-19-2007 06:35 PM
This way and that way.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagster (Post 47067)
Remember the old Ball Flight Laws, by Gary Wiren? One of them had to do with the Path and Face. It goes something like this...THE INITIAL DIRECTION THE BALL TAKES OFF IN IS A RESULT OF THE PATH, AND THE EVENTUAL CURVE OF THE BALL IS A RESULT OF THE CLUBFACE AT IMPACT.

How true do you think this is? If the face is open or closed enough... will the face over-ride the path?

The book says in 3-F-7-A... to "Depend on Clubface alignment for direction control."

What do you think?
You think, set it up and execute it that way, but the "Law" do it the other way around. So, how true is it, you or the "LAW"?

"If the face is open or closed enough... will the face over-ride the path?"(or "will the path over-ride the face")

Does a ball ever touch the ground when hit by a wedge followed by a deep divot?

lagster 12-19-2007 07:47 PM
Over-Ride
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bts (Post 47088)
You think, set it up and execute it that way, but the "Law" do it the other way around. So, how true is it, you or the "LAW"?

"If the face is open or closed enough... will the face over-ride the path?"(or "will the path over-ride the face")

Does a ball ever touch the ground when hit by a wedge followed by a deep divot?
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How many of you have ever seen a player that was way under the plane... but every now and then hit a shot that goes straight left(pull)?

12 piece bucket 12-19-2007 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lagster (Post 47090)
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How many of you have ever seen a player that was way under the plane... but every now and then hit a shot that goes straight left(pull)?

FACE FACE FACE . . . to play golf you have to have a face that has the proper relation to the path of the club . . . that IS the line of compression.

neil 12-19-2007 10:04 PM
RESULTANT FORCE!........is Physics

rwh 12-19-2007 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagster (Post 47067)
Remember the old Ball Flight Laws, by Gary Wiren? One of them had to do with the Path and Face. It goes something like this...THE INITIAL DIRECTION THE BALL TAKES OFF IN IS A RESULT OF THE PATH, AND THE EVENTUAL CURVE OF THE BALL IS A RESULT OF THE CLUBFACE AT IMPACT.

How true do you think this is? If the face is open or closed enough... will the face over-ride the path?

The book says in 3-F-7-A... to "Depend on Clubface alignment for direction control."

What do you think?
Wiren has it exactly backwards.

The initial direction the ball takes off depends more on clubface orientation than path; The Search for the Perfect Swing, Cochran & Dobbs, Chapter 20 (1968 ). The amount of curve in the air is the direct result of the size of the angle between the swing path and face aim; ibid.

BBax 12-21-2007 07:25 PM
Dr Z Strikes again
 
Dr. Zick answered this one too. Hint: it involved a "D" plane of flight based on the path and face. Face was definately the most important factor in ball flight direction. It was quite a "Z"ummit.:eyes:

drewitgolf 12-22-2007 11:14 AM
Welcome to Fantasy Island!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBax (Post 47156)
Dr. Zick answered this one too. Hint: it involved a "D" plane of flight based on the path and face. Face was definately the most important factor in ball flight direction. It was quite a "Z"ummit.:eyes:
"D" Plane, "D" Plane, Boss.


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