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jerry1967 08-27-2009 05:58 PM

Finish swivel
 
Can a swinger use the right arm to help with the finish swivel of should the only thought be to use the left arm? The Centrifugal Force is not doing it so I need some help for now.

Daryl 08-28-2009 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jerry1967 (Post 67343)
Can a swinger use the right arm to help with the finish swivel of should the only thought be to use the left arm? The Centrifugal Force is not doing it so I need some help for now.

You need help with Centrifugal Force. But for now, use both Wrists. Keep the Left Wrist Flat.

Here is what the green man said a few years ago:

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10. Finish Swivel (4-D-0). Go to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position) with the Left Wrist vertical to one of the three Basic Planes (Horizontal, Vertical or Angled). Slowly rotate the Wrists into their "parallel to the Plane" position for the Finish. The Finish Swivel is a key element of the Total Motion and is indispensable as a bridge from Follow-Through to the Finish. Sadly, it is completely missing from the Stroke of most players, and they are left only with a bending Left Wrist to enable the Club to 'pass the Hands.' You 'prepare' for the correct Finish Swivel (by making a compatible and correct motion earlier in the Stroke). Similarly, you also 'prepare' for the dreaded Chicken Wing (by making a compatible but incorrect motion).

12 piece bucket 08-28-2009 06:52 AM

you also want your "swivel" to comply with your hinge action . . . . there are going to be different rates of overtaking for different hinge actions and plane angles. Another piece that can impact your rate of overtaking is moving your head around. If you move off the ball and hang back their . . . . gonna be much harder to control the clubface.

check the book on clubhead travel with the different hinge motions. Swinging is generally associated with horizontal hinging. But keep in mind that Mr. Kelley said that it doesn't take much to override the CF (or whatever some egg head wants to call the force acting on the face) and be a manipulated hands swinger. I'm no Homer Kelley, but bucket does not recommend turning the control of the face over to CF. Control face, control ball, control ball, control game.

Another piece with your swivel is WHEN you do it . . . . See the point in Hogan's swing where swivel occurs vs. Lee Buck vs. Fat Jack . . . consider the different trajectories and the implications on the angle of attack . . . I imagine you'd see a considerable difference in the disruption of the turf if them three cats were practicing next to each other.

jerry1967 08-28-2009 09:10 AM

where in the book does it decribe horizontal hinging?


Also what do you mean I need help with my cf?

KevCarter 08-28-2009 09:33 AM

Jerry, start with 2G, 7-10 and 10-10.

Kevin

bambam 08-28-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jerry1967 (Post 67360)
where in the book does it decribe horizontal hinging?

I don't have the book in front of me, but check 10-10-A/B/C

Some other book references I found in the forums:
2-G, 7-10 and 1-L #4

When that confuses you :), do a search on the archives for hinge action and check out these videos:

Part 1:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...on-part-1.html

Part 2:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...on-part-2.html

And just in case that confuses your concept of the finish swivel, review this one again:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...sh-Swivel.html

Daryl 08-28-2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jerry1967 (Post 67360)
Also what do you mean I need help with my cf?

If CF acted on the Clubhead and shaft, at 100 MPH Clubhead Speed, your Hands would finish High and you would feel that your feet were being Lifted off the Ground.

Why is your Club slowing down so soon after Impact that your Club can't get to shoulder high on it's own residual speed?

Whatever is Driving your Club, abruptly stops after Impact. CF doesn't work that way.

Law of the Flail. The Swingers Primary Concern.

jerry1967 08-28-2009 09:54 AM

I do get a nice high finish but without the proper swivel.

jerry1967 08-28-2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bambam (Post 67362)
I don't have the book in front of me, but check 10-10-A/B/C

Some other book references I found in the forums:
2-G, 7-10 and 1-L #4

When that confuses you :), do a search on the archives for hinge action and check out these videos:

Part 1:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...on-part-1.html

Part 2:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...on-part-2.html

And just in case that confuses your concept of the finish swivel, review this one again:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...sh-Swivel.html

Thank you for the information.

Daryl 08-28-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry1967 (Post 67364)
I do get a nice high finish but without the proper swivel.

Hmm? Then I don't understand the problem unless you're losing the Flat Left Wrist. You should have a good Finish Swivel. ??


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