Float

[jim_0068]

That's a great looking swing Comdpa. When I looked at the two photos I initially thought there was quite a bit more secondary axis tilt in the one on the left, but apart from the greater accumulator lag in the right one, I think the biggest difference is the angle of your head - its more alighned with your spine in the left pic.

Just my 2c.

Chris

Maybe but he does have more tilt in the sweep release. You can tell by looking at the tilt of the hips.

[comdpa]

Maybe but he does have more tilt in the sweep release. You can tell by looking at the tilt of the hips.

jim_0068,

Your observation is right once again and puts paid to the idea that one needs to have excessive axis tilt (what Lynn terms as a "perverted idea of an axis tilt") to achieve a Max Trigger Delay.

Per the glossary:

Axis Tilt: "To change the plane of the Shoulder Turn without moving the Head, the golfer must tilt the Shoulder Axis by moving the Hips."

Balance: "Holding the center of gravity of the body inside The Stance without moving the Head."

Stationary Head: "Choosing the Head - rather than Between-the-Shoulders as the Pivot Center."

Remember, The Golfing Machine should be read as a collective whole just like other manuals instead of topically.

Thus, when we examine these three entries above, we can readily see that the hip slide is only a mere 2-3 inches, for anymore than that will cause the Head to move out of the Pivot Center as well as cause excessive axis tilt.

To cherrypick would be a sure way to misinterpretation, we must use the book to interpret the book.

[lagster]

jim_0068,

Your observation is right once again and puts paid to the idea that one needs to have excessive axis tilt (what Lynn terms as a "perverted idea of an axis tilt") to achieve a Max Trigger Delay.

Per the glossary:

Axis Tilt: "To change the plane of the Shoulder Turn without moving the Head, the golfer must tilt the Shoulder Axis by moving the Hips."

Balance: "Holding the center of gravity of the body inside The Stance without moving the Head."

Stationary Head: "Choosing the Head - rather than Between-the-Shoulders as the Pivot Center."

Remember, The Golfing Machine should be read as a collective whole just like other manuals instead of topically.

Thus, when we examine these three entries above, we can readily see that the hip slide is only a mere 2-3 inches, for anymore than that will cause the Head to move out of the Pivot Center as well as cause excessive axis tilt.

To cherrypick would be a sure way to misinterpretation, we must use the book to interpret the book.

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Good pictures, and good looking Float Load!

Could we possibly some DOWN THE LINE pictures of your Float Loading procedure, and maybe the other also?

Also... do you use Standard, Single , or Double Wrist Action when employing the Float Load?

[comdpa]

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Good pictures, and good looking Float Load!

Could we possibly some DOWN THE LINE pictures of your Float Loading procedure, and maybe the other also?

Also... do you use Standard, Single , or Double Wrist Action when employing the Float Load?

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the kind words.

I will get together some down the line photographs of a snap release as well as a full sweep release.

With regards to my Left Wrist Action, I will say that it is Standard with a touch of Double Wrist Action.

[jim_0068]

blah...baloney.

You slide as much as you need too to allow the right shoulder to go downplane.

Your amount of "tilt" will vary depending on your backswing pivot and your flexibility.

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So maybe you need "more tilt" to achieve a maximum trigger delay, but how is that "perverted" if the right shoulder is going down plane properly and the right forearm is on plane at impact?

[comdpa]

blah...baloney.

You slide as much as you need too to allow the right shoulder to go downplane.

Your amount of "tilt" will vary depending on your backswing pivot and your flexibility.

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So maybe you need "more tilt" to achieve a maximum trigger delay, but how is that "perverted" if the right shoulder is going down plane properly and the right forearm is on plane at impact?

Even to the point where your Tripod is disrupted???
Again I reference:

Axis Tilt: "To change the plane of the Shoulder Turn without moving the Head, the golfer must tilt the Shoulder Axis by moving the Hips."

Balance: "Holding the center of gravity of the body inside The Stance without moving the Head."

Stationary Head: "Choosing the Head - rather than Between-the-Shoulders as the Pivot Center."

No idea what your "baloney" is referring to...but since I have put up my action for scrutiny, how about YOU put up yours so that we can learn from you.

[jim_0068]

Comdpa..."baloney" was me just trying to have some fun. Sorry if it offended you.

I think you have a great action.

As for the axis tilt/balance/stationary head arguement...it's a give and take kind of thing.

Stationary head means "technically" you cannot achieve maximum trigger delay. So you are giving up some distance to gain some precision.

On the other hand, if you allow your head to move slightly so that you can achieve maximum trigger delay you will gain some distance and lose some precision.

How much more distance can you gain? Usually a bunch. How much less precision will you lose? That's up for debate. For me, personally, the distance outweighs the slight loss of precision.

that's just me

[comdpa]

Comdpa..."baloney" was me just trying to have some fun. Sorry if it offended you.

I think you have a great action.

As for the axis tilt/balance/stationary head arguement...it's a give and take kind of thing.

Stationary head means "technically" you cannot achieve maximum trigger delay. So you are giving up some distance to gain some precision.

On the other hand, if you allow your head to move slightly so that you can achieve maximum trigger delay you will gain some distance and lose some precision.

How much more distance can you gain? Usually a bunch. How much less precision will you lose? That's up for debate. For me, personally, the distance outweighs the slight loss of precision.

that's just me

No worries Jim,

It takes more than just baloney to offend me.

I am always keen to learn, therefore if I am amiss in something, I want to be corrected.

Such is the problem with forums, where nuances in expression are easily misconstrued.

Cheers