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Old 05-13-2006, 07:34 AM
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What causes it to bend? Faulty hand action would be one reason, poor body rotation another?
Lack of extensor action,Improperly set Flying wedges,Maintaining address fix alignments,Overacceleration,Bending the planeline,No release swivel..........can you tell I've had problems!
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Old 05-13-2006, 10:27 AM
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you are all overthinking the issue, mainly it's just the cocking of the right wrist.

Fix that and you'll be fine.
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:22 AM
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Jim,

The cocking up of the right wrist?

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Old 05-13-2006, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jim_0068
you are all overthinking the issue, mainly it's just the cocking of the right wrist.

Fix that and you'll be fine.
How does right wrist cock relate to left wrist bend,or do you mean flattening of the right?
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:07 PM
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This tastes a little flat.
For starters, following the Vertical Motion of the Uncocking of the Left Wrist with a Horizontal Motion (Flattening) of the Right Wrist.
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Old 05-13-2006, 03:07 PM
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I get the feeling that if one can achieve the Flat left wrist at impact the rest of the imperatives will fall into place with practice. Anyone else agree?
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Old 05-13-2006, 03:40 PM
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I get the feeling that if one can achieve the Flat left wrist at impact the rest of the imperatives will fall into place with practice. Anyone else agree?
No, don't agree. Too many golfers out there with a 'fake' Flat Left Wrist (what the heck? ) at Impact.
Out of the Three Imperatives, if I really had to choose one where if you could do it everything else will fall into place, then I would choose Clubhead Lag Pressure.
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Old 05-13-2006, 07:19 PM
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The left wrist works in a vertical plane uncocking and cocking in a "up and down" motion, again VERTICAL. Even when you on the inclinded plane, it's still a vertical motion performed on an inclinded plane.

The right wrist works in a horizontal plane bending and unbending. This is how the left wrist stays flat when the left forearm is turned to the plane...because the right wrist is BENDING on a HORIZONTAL PLANE. Watch Tomasello's video on i think the hands, he demonstrates this clearly.

When you BEND the left wrist you are introducing a VERTICAL MOTION to the RIGHT WRIST which introduces the bend in the left wrist, which also conversely severly opens the clubface.

Take all the "cock" or "vertical" motion out of the right wrist and you'll have a flat left wrist.
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No, don't agree. Too many golfers out there with a 'fake' Flat Left Wrist (what the heck? ) at Impact.
Out of the Three Imperatives, if I really had to choose one where if you could do it everything else will fall into place, then I would choose Clubhead Lag Pressure.
How does one identify a faker? This is interesting.
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Old 05-14-2006, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mb6606
I get the feeling that if one can achieve the Flat left wrist at impact the rest of the imperatives will fall into place with practice. Anyone else agree?
No, don't agree. Too many golfers out there with a 'fake' Flat Left Wrist (what the heck? ) at Impact.
Out of the Three Imperatives, if I really had to choose one where if you could do it everything else will fall into place, then I would choose Clubhead Lag Pressure.
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Tong,
You missed the point. You either have the flat wrist and create max compression or not. Faked is not flat.
I believe one could have a bent right wrist and lag pressure and not have a flat wrist.
Maybe I am wrong but Homer made it #1 (flat wrist) for a reason.
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How does one identify a faker? This is interesting.
Let me try to be clearer.

There are Three Imperatives. Their identities are separate and independent of each other, but they are also, to some extent, related in many ways.

You asked if I agree with you that if one has a Flat Left Wrist, then everything else would fall into place. I disagree and I told you why I thought Clubhead Lag Pressure fits the bill better (post #9).

The Flat Left Wrist by itself does not give maximum compression.

Why are there so many golfers out there who it hit crap even with a dead Flat Left Wrist at Impact (with a 10-2-B grip)?

Faking it means you are forcing it to be Flat by using your wrist muscles to hold it Flat through Impact.

How do you think Hogan went from a slightly cupped or Bent Left Wrist at the Top to a Flat or maybe even slightly Arched Left Wrist at Impact? Is it because of what he tried to do with his wrists? No! Because of Clubhead Lag Pressure!

Here’s a common example of what happens in many people’s swing. They’re at the Top, On Plane with a Flat Left Wrist, ready to go psycho on the ball. They start over-accelerating, loose all their Lag and Drag, their Left Wrist Bends and Right Wrist Flattens. Suddenly they are Off Plane Tracing a Bent Plane Line. Now they must compensate by Steering. All Three Imperatives goes down the drain.

Teaching a golfer to have a Flat Left Wrist per se at Impact is easy. But at the expense of lousy rhythm, no Lag and Drag, Steering, etc. It’s a big price to pay. Teaching a golfer to have real Clubhead Lag Pressure is much harder and more elusive. After all, Clubhead Lag is the Secret of Golf!
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