Eldrick Picture..good?bad? depends?

[12 piece bucket]

What do you mean when you say that picture J? Snap release? Wonder if the head drop was the same, it seems more forceful than ever since he got to foley, I know his head has always dropped but it seems like ever since he got on this s&t-esque motion(pelvic thrust, ski jump twist nonsense....) the motion seems more forced, more jammed than ever. As we know In this game inches are miles.

who's thrusted the pelvis?....

[whip]

Are we sure Eldrick isn't being taught this? Some cats saying "that's a CP cut"....whatever that means.....

I'm quite sure he is 12 pc, Sean foley wants tiger to squat jump twist and straighten the right arm without uncocking the left wrist, HARD, and he believes as he states in this article that low point should be four to five inches in front of the ball......For a driver?? You sure about that Sean? Low point will be at low point and the balls distance in relation to low point should change depending on the club not be the same for every club. The simple question is this, does the driver have Time to sufficiently precede impact and release it's long arc from THERE? this may be ideal snap release for a 7 iron but that driver has got to release sooner.

Btw the angle of this picture is not that great, hard to tell where exactly his snap release is at and you can't really see the ball

12 pc what's your reasoning behind the analysis of this static picture vs. A video from a better angle, I see the golfwrx watermark, are they going goo goo over this picture over there on golfwrx?

[JTillery]

These two are miles apart. I would agree Tiger has been encouraged in the squat and jump, but to me it's not as obvious of a problem as the angle. This is 2000 versus now, and while the angles are fairly close, note how much farther the hands have traveled in the downswing on the right. To be fair, the ball position has moved forward which helps, but this pivot has moved forward AND lag/lean has increased. For all the "stuck" talk and lingo, to me, this is what "stuck" looks like. Im sure he is also striving for positive attack angle numbers on the driver which would be much easier to achieve if you were the fella on the left.
(You know, the guy that won all them majors)

[whip]

Hall of fame post Jtillery inches are miles... Tiger on left > tiger on the right, by a longshot.

The head bobbing and jump twist are interrelated to the #2 wrist cock for tiger, because when he lunges down he must jump twist back up through impact with a seriously high turning speed matched with a snap release, the faster you turn the hips the sooner the club must be released to ensure rhythm.

Bottom line, he's jammed up, more stuck than ever in a worse way, if only tiger would find a good authorized instructor or simply back off all the extreme moves he's attempting.

That driver swing on the right looks like he's going to plow into the ground about three feet before the ball.

Notice the softness of tigers arms in the picture on the left vs the right you can see his forearms rippling, MUSCULAR EFFORT, TENSION, no good, the left picture reminds us of tigers freewheeling speed from the late 90s and early 2ks.


ALSO in the picture originally posted it looks as though tiger's number four accumulator has nearly reached full extension too early

[12 piece bucket]

I'm quite sure he is 12 pc, Sean foley wants tiger to squat jump twist and straighten the right arm without uncocking the left wrist, HARD, and he believes as he states in The article that low point should be four inches in front of the ball......For a driver?? You sure about that Sean? Low point will be at low point and the balls distance in relation to low point should change depending on the club not be the same for every club. The simple question is this, does the driver have Time to sufficiently precede impact and release it's long arc from THERE? this may be ideal snap release for a 7 iron but that driver has got to release sooner.

Btw the angle of this picture when referring to, well anything really is not that great, hard to tell where exactly his snap release is at

12 pc what's your reasoning behind the analysis of this static picture vs. A video from a better angle, I see the golfwrx watermark, are they going goo goo over this picture over there on golfwrx?

I couldn't find any good video of the "new move"....if you got a link post it up....I'd rather look a that too....not sure what's going on at golfwrx....I was talking about the goo goo here....see post #4, #8 and #10 in this thread....

Still no support on why this is "AS GOOD AS IT GETS".....to me there is an assumption that this "look" equates some how to 330 yard bombs....I need to understand the rationale.

When you look at this pic vs. the Hogan pic...what differences do you observe? I see some pretty significant differences...are they good or bad?

[12 piece bucket]

What about these? Which one is better? How come?

[MizunoJoe]

What about these? Which one is better? How come?

Three distinct positions. 1st two are pre-release, 3rd is post-release and the clubhead is freewheeling.

All three are exquisite

[whip]

What got tiger stuck to begin with, was bobbing, now its worse. I can tell you that foley is trying to get tiger to actively straighten his right arm and HARD while holding the left wrist angle. when you really actively straighten the right arm that left wrist wants to go, but tiger knows sean told him to hold that angle, the only way to do it is with tension and muscular effort. Tiger might have a shoulder injury before too long. These issues create essentially a Black Box Impact. The way foley is instructing tiger you might think he's a nicklaus guy!

[12 piece bucket]

[quote=12 piece bucket;88624]

Three distinct positions. 1st two are pre-release, 3rd is post-release and the clubhead is freewheeling.

All three are exquisite

How would you classify this? "Pre-Release"....Eldrick's hands (to me anyway) are clearly past the point in space in relation to his body than Mr. Hogan's....The clubhead is several feet behind Mr. Hogan's....can we agree they are different? If so, is there an advantage to one of these "triggers" over the other? And why?

[12 piece bucket]

What got tiger stuck to begin with, was bobbing, now its worse. I can tell you that foley is trying to get tiger to actively straighten his right arm and HARD while holding the left wrist angle. when you really actively straighten the right arm that left wrist wants to go, but tiger knows sean told him to hold that angle, the only way to do it is with tension and muscular effort. Tiger might have a shoulder injury before too long. These issues create essentially a Black Box Impact. The way foley is instructing tiger you might think he's a nicklaus guy!

If that is in fact the instruction he is getting...at what point is he being told to straighten his right arm?