Book Errors
7th Edition Changes
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08-12-2006, 10:24 AM
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so then, if i understand correctly in my thick thick noodle, the desired hinge action HH AH VH is programmed through 3 different planes associated through the desired hinge action, and the bod-arms-pivot must be able to reconcile the hand vertical too chosen plane for the correct motion? theres a mouthfull, i dont know if that makes sense.
I have always tried to 'work' my hands in a hinging motion back and down and through, gets flippy after impact, this could be why? Especially that at startdown, my goal is right shoulder along same line, no matter the hinge action, too the ball... Gonna blow my engine so i'll stop there. 
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08-12-2006, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by powerdraw
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so then, if i understand correctly in my thick thick noodle, the desired hinge action HH AH VH is programmed through 3 different planes associated through the desired hinge action, and the bod-arms-pivot must be able to reconcile the hand vertical too chosen plane for the correct motion? theres a mouthfull, i dont know if that makes sense.
I have always tried to 'work' my hands in a hinging motion back and down and through, gets flippy after impact, this could be why? Especially that at startdown, my goal is right shoulder along same line, no matter the hinge action, too the ball... Gonna blow my engine so i'll stop there.
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I think the same lightbulb just went off in my head, powerdraw. If I'm understand correctly the hands feel "quiet" in executing the 3 hinge actions properly; they just hang on.
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08-12-2006, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigwill
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I think the same lightbulb just went off in my head, powerdraw. If I'm understand correctly the hands feel "quiet" in executing the 3 hinge actions properly; they just hang on.
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HH is automatic in an uninhibited swing but AH and VH do require manual intervention on our behalf.
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08-12-2006, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Burner
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HH is automatic in an uninhibited swing but AH and VH do require manual intervention on our behalf.
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Do you mean a manual intervention besides the drive out action of the right arm (in hitting)?
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09-08-2006, 01:17 PM
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This is a great thread gentlemen,
First of all, we all have to look at these changes in terms of how they are CORRECT first, and exhaust all of the possibilities before assuming that because something is unfamiliar or new it must be incorrect. This system is such a precious intellectual commodity, we owe it to ourselves to have these discussions for the greater good. I appreciate the candor of this type of discussion, we all gain from civilized debate. For my piece, I wasn't terribly troubled by this change simply because the Hinge is mounted at the shoulder. Thanks again to all for the efforts you all make to absorb and apply.
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09-08-2006, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Burner
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HH is automatic in an uninhibited swing but AH and VH do require manual intervention on our behalf.
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Horizontal Hinging is indeed the automatic result of the Swinger's Centrifugal Force Throw-Out Action. Thus, Angled Hinging requires the Swinger's "manual intervention."
Similarly, Angled Hinging is the automatic result of the Hitter's Muscular Thrust Drive-Out Action. And Horizontal Hinging requires the Hitter's manual intervention.
Vertical Hinging -- the Clubface staying Square to the Line in Layback-only mode -- is the natural byproduct of neither Swinging nor Hitting. As such, it is always a deliberate, mechanical manipulation.
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09-08-2006, 07:21 PM
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Staying On Track
This thread is getting a bit off topic, and my reply above didn't help matters. Questions unrelated to Book Errors should be asked and answered, but in other Forums. Let's stay on track. 
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10-21-2006, 12:54 PM
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So, according to Mr Kelley........
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Unfortunately, Homer Kelley can no longer answer our questions regarding the logic behind the move of Hinge Action from Zone #3 (the Hands Lane) in the first six editions to Zone #2 (the Arms Lane) in the 7th. However, his words live on in the recordings of his three Golf Stroke Engineering Master Classes conducted during 1981-1982. I have personally transcribed the direct quotes below to help us understand the rationale behind this radical shift.
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-- "Hinge action is the result of angular motion on an inclined plane."
-- "The hinge action is not a motion of the hands. It's a paddle[wheel] motion of the pivot and the arm swing, and it is the result of an angular motion...a circular motion...and it takes place on an inclined plane."
-- "Hinge action is not a wrist motion. It is an arm and pivot motion. The hand only is positioned [vertical to one of the three associated planes] and then takes on its arm and body rotating motion."
-- "The hinge action is not a hand motion, a hand action, or a hand anything except position. It is the position that has been set up to be vertical to one of the three basic planes."
-- "The thing is...the pivot and the arm motion produce the hinge action. It is not a hand motion except in the position in which you are maintaining it...vertical to an associated plane."
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Sorry for this obvious ( to some) but after some glases of fine Rioja I have to ask:
They should be in Zone 2?
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11-03-2006, 07:26 PM
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Book Error
Page 131- Zone#3 has the heading of The "Arms" Lane AND The "Hands" Lane.
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11-03-2006, 07:54 PM
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Unforced Errors
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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Page 131- Zone#3 has the heading of The "Arms" Lane AND The "Hands" Lane.
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Thanks, Mike.
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