Trevino thread

[MizunoJoe]

A long, wide, thin divot with an iron implies a sweeping motion with the ball struck near low point, and too large a clubhead path radius coming into the back of the ball, which means #2 throwaway and not hitting the inside of the ball. I don't see how a down and out Impact with an iron can lead to a long, wide, thin divot. I've seen good players with relatively long divots, but they were also deep.

[EdZ]

A long, wide, thin divot with an iron implies a sweeping motion with the ball struck near low point, and too large a clubhead path radius coming into the back of the ball, which means #2 throwaway and not hitting the inside of the ball. I don't see how a down and out Impact with an iron can lead to a long, wide, thin divot. I've seen good players with relatively long divots, but they were also deep.

That depends on how you position the circle relative to the ground and the amount of right elbow and right wrist bent, as well as ball position and thrust angle.

No doubt that 'more' divot can be more margin for error, yes.

[Yoda]

Three thoughts on this business of Divot Depth:

1. The bottom of any near-circle (Clubhead Orbit) with a five-foot radius (Left Arm and Club) is going to be relatively flat. Not perfectly flat, mind you, but relatively so.

2. When the Ball is played well behind Low Point, the Plane Angle can also be made Flatter, which aids in Divot Depth control.

3. The collision of Ball and Clubface will tend to drive the the lesser-lofted Clubs straight back and the higher-lofted Clubs more into the ground. This 'equal and opposite' reaction combined with the flatter plane of the longer Clubs produces shallower Divots with the Long Clubs and deeper divots with Short Clubs.

[6bmike]

Three thoughts on this business of Divot Depth:

1. The bottom of any near-circle (Clubhead Orbit) with a five-foot radius (Left Arm and Club) is going to be relatively flat. Not perfectly flat, mind you, but relatively so.

2. When the Ball is played well behind Low Point, the Plane Angle can also be made Flatter, which aids in Divot Depth control.

3. The collision of Ball and Clubface will tend to drive the the lesser-lofted Clubs straight back and the higher-lofted Clubs more into the ground. This 'equal and opposite' reaction combined with the flatter plane of the longer Clubs produces shallower Divots with the Long Clubs and deeper divots with Short Clubs.

Homer said never try- or not try- to take a divot.

I guess the "circle" takes care of that.

[YodasLuke]

I create a flat spot....
on the back of the ball.

Hee Hee Hee

[tgmer]

This may be a stupid question. Since Trevino has put tape on his left thumb, this can assist the sensing of the pushing on the left thumb #1 pp, is this legal? Since this is a kind of assistance or training aid. If it is leggal then why those specify glove is illegal?

[YodasLuke]

This may be a stupid question. Since Trevino has put tape on his left thumb, this can assist the sensing of the pushing on the left thumb #1 pp, is this legal? Since this is a kind of assistance or training aid. If it is leggal then why those specify glove is illegal?

My hypothesis is that Trevino puts the tape on his thumb to keep the glove from wearing out in that spot. I find that hitters wear that spot out more than most.

[6bmike]

You can't tape fingers together or have it used as an alignment aid, none of which Lee did.

What I always thought was illegal was Venturi''s use of a wedge in his right shoe to keep inside pressure on his take-away. He said he had a special shoe made for that.

[bantamben1]

i never notcied trevinos tape on his thumb i also do the same thing on my gloves because otherwise i wear a hole in them after three rounds.

[brianmanzella]

Ben Doyle calls it (the flat spot) the "Wallop of Centrifrugal Force."