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Old 05-13-2013, 06:28 PM
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This is the ER and in typical fashion I am impatient so I will pose my question and then search the site for the answer... Apologies if there is already a thread on my bane.


Over my last three rounds I have felt a real command over my swing so much so i began working on shot shaping. then when I arrived at the range on Saturday to warm for my 4 man 2 best ball tourney I had lost it. I could not get my hands to drive the pivot. I was hitting fat irons and pop ups with the woods. My takeaway was inside and my hips were following the club back forcing my lead shoulder to drop. I couldn't create any centrifigal force on the downswing.

I hit the practice tee for about 30 min and more of the same.

I don't want to work bad habits in as I've come so far in the off season.

What would be a good check list to work through to diagnose this fatal flaw?
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How can get my arms to work up back and in without starting my swing with the torso?

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I worked with a Ballard instructor for years and I struggle disconnecting my hands from my body now that I've left this method.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:43 PM
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I'm a swinger who starts at impact fix
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:10 PM
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I'm a swinger who starts at impact fix
Using RFT from standard address, as you fan the club back and up with the right forearm, the right hip moves straight back behind you and the right leg slant slightly increases, preventing a lateral move to the right.

However, I'm not sure RFT would work from impact fix.

Have you tried simply maintaining the slant in the right leg?
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:07 PM
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This may be in the ball park of what I'm looking for, I read your post and tried a few backswings in my living room and moving my hip behind me seems to creat a ton of room as wellas allows me to keep my height with the lead shoulder.

Ill try tomorow while practicing and update you

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Old 05-14-2013, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
Using RFT from standard address, as you fan the club back and up with the right forearm, the right hip moves straight back behind you and the right leg slant slightly increases, preventing a lateral move to the right.

However, I'm not sure RFT would work from impact fix.

Have you tried simply maintaining the slant in the right leg?
Great post.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:21 AM
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This may be in the ball park of what I'm looking for, I read your post and tried a few backswings in my living room and moving my hip behind me seems to creat a ton of room as wellas allows me to keep my height with the lead shoulder.

Ill try tomorow while practicing and update you

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My instructor has me working with 10-15-B Delayed Hip Action with pre-turned hips at address. They're not turned all the way through but get naturally "picked" by the shoulder turn in the backstroke.
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:45 AM
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The MacDonald exercises have a 45 degree R.hip turn. How does this work with a RFT? And Lag and Drag?
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:30 PM
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The MacDonald exercises have a 45 degree R.hip turn. How does this work with a RFT? And Lag and Drag?
A 45 deg hip turn is fine as long as you move the right hip straight back behind you as you fan the right forearm up and back. Not sure what you're getting at with lag and drag.
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:54 PM
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A 45 deg hip turn is fine as long as you move the right hip straight back behind you as you fan the right forearm up and back. Not sure what you're getting at with lag and drag.
Lag and drag is a swinger's takeaway. I'm not sure if that's the same thing as RFT.
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Old 05-15-2013, 03:36 PM
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Lag and drag is a swinger's takeaway. I'm not sure if that's the same thing as RFT.
Ah yes, LCT - Lagging Clubhead Takeaway, where the clubhead lags the hands - that's definitely not RFT.
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