[12 piece bucket]

any use for tgm? i know that in the book this grip is listed as the cut shot procedure..but what about all the time?

I have tried to get some love on this question too. I'll give you my neophyte thoughts . . .

The Trevino grip you speak of is 10-2-D. Which is basically having the Left Palm TURNED on top of the shaft. Brian Manzella, effectively I may add, debates the degree that Lee Buck has his Left Hand Turned. I don't have any pics, but (calling Annikan Ballstriker) it would be interesting to see his grip up close.

But for this thread let us assume that he did have 10-2-D. Here's what Mr. K had to say about the 10-2-D grip . . .

10-2-D STRONG DOUBLE ACTION T/V/A Now the Right Wrist is Vertical and the Left Wrist is Turned to the top of the Clubshaft so that the Left Wristcocking motion will be on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend. The #3 Pressure Point and the left thumb are also on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend. Double Action – same as 10-2-C.

Very compatible with the Cut Shot procedures. Any Left Wrist Bend at Impact Fix should be maintained throughout the Stroke.

This Grip Type features maximum Wristcocking action and strong support for both Acceleration and Impact loads. The palm of the Right Hand moves toward Impact exactly like a paddle-wheel rotating On-Plane – no separate Rolling Motion until after Impact. See 10-10-C.

Ok . . .So with this grip Paddle-Wheel Motion is a MUST or you will hook it where the elephants go to die. So here is 10-10-C that Mr. K refers us to on Paddle Wheel:

10-10-C ANGLED HINGE ACTION This simultaneous “Closing and Layback” procedure holds the Flat Left Wrist vertical to the Inclined Plane (2-D, 2-G). This is identical to the Paddle-Wheel motion of the straightening Right Arm but is a superior procedure (1-F). It greatly simplifies Hitting (10-19-A). The Shoulder Turn changes the appearance of this 10-18-C Wrist Action but not its Feel (see 7-10). Its Slice tendency must be compensated per 2-J-1. The “Laying Back” action makes Ball location very critical. Study 4-D-0.

And now to chase down Mr. K's 10-18-C reference:

10-18-C SINGLE Here, the Left Wrist is Cocked but not Turned. The Action has three alternative procedures:
1. Let the Pivot bring Horizontal Hinging to a normal On Plane “Top” position.
2. Let the Pivot bring Angled Hinging to a normal On Plane “Top” postion.
3. Hold the Wrist – “Vertical” throughout for a True Single Action “Top” position.
Because there is actually NO HAND MOTION during the Stroke, the Clubhead Fix alignment remains undisturbed.

My assumption here would be that with 10-2-D may be Standard Wrist Action, with its required start-up and release Swivel are unneccessary due the fact that THE LEFT PALM IS ALREADY FACING THE INCLINED PLANE? So with 10-2-D should there just be one SLOW Hinge feel?

So basically with this grip the prefered Hinge Motion is Angled Hinging, which of course Lee Buck was the king of. He was a self-described BLOCKER of the ball. He Blocked it around the golf course in his prime. Another thing that you will notice is that Lee Buck traced the absolute straightest Plane Line. He retained the Impact conditions in his wrists DEEEEEEEP into follow through. This was pretty much manditory for him to keep the ball out of the left rough.

Lee Buck also had a strong latteral drive/shift into the ball, which also helped with maintaining the Angled Hinge motion keeping the clubface from turning over.

The questions I have on 10-2-D are the following:

1. Does this grip type eliminate a TRUE flat wrist and rather call for its anatomical substitute?

2. Does this grip type preclude Horizontal Hinging?

3. Is this really an inferior grip type since the Flying Wedge Assemblies are not directly opposed to one another?

4. Does 10-2-D require a different type of release of the #2 Accumulator? And since the Wrist Cock is in the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend, is the degree of Bend in the Right Wrist flattened in conjuction with the Left Wrist Uncocking?

5. Does this grip type lend itself to Hitting or Swinging?

Those are the questions . . .

Thanks!

Bucket